ناگفته‌های بحران آب - قسمت «اول» | گفتگوی محمد فاضلی و حجت میان‌آبادی

00:00 – The conversation opens with Mohammad Fadli describing the water crisis as the most complex issue facing governance, noting how ideological narratives like the 'watermelon myth' simplify the problem. 04:05 – Mian‑Abaadi explains that water governance covers many aspects and that the crisis is not about scarcity but about the interests of contractors and consultants. 17:03 – Fadli argues for a consumption‑based governance approach. 36:00 – Mian‑Abaadi reiterates that the issue is not about quantity. 55:54 – Fadli criticizes the 'watermelon myth' as a deliberate deception. 01:18:54 – Mian‑Abaadi says that restoring Lake Urmia alone cannot solve the crisis. 01:20:31 – Fadli notes that politicians are also entangled in the myth. 01:32:51 – Mian‑Abaadi points out that if scarcity were the criterion, Yazd would not be the water capital of Iran. 01:47:29 – Fadli says that supply strategy alone is not a solution. 01:52:01 – Mian‑Abaadi claims that assuming rationality in water management is unrealistic. 02:05:14 – Fadli states that water projects are not necessarily based on expert analysis. 02:09:09 – Mian‑Abaadi says many costs could have been avoided. 02:10:23 – Fadli calls for democratic water governance. 02:29:35 – Mian‑Abaadi says that conflicting interests can still lead to good outcomes. 02:35:20 – Fadli says that the efforts of a small group can be effective. 02:42:56 – Mian‑Abaadi says the problem is unwillingness, not inability. 02:48:08 – Fadli announces that he will publish further discussions on his channel.