2hollis and His Dad Open Up in Exclusive Joint Interview

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For the past few years, the young singer, rapper and producer 2hollis has been one of the brightest spots in future-thinking pop. He released his major-label debut, “Star,” last year, but for the 22-year-old rage-pop phenom, music has always been a family business. His father is John Herndon of the post-rock band Tortoise. In their first joint interview, the two sat down for a wholesome, extended interview with Popcast, The New York Times pop culture show, to discuss their careers, their approaches to creating music, how literal and cultural nepotism aren’t the same thing and the way that influence flows both directions between parent and child. 1:00 Early days 5:51 Hollis’s musical childhood 12:50 2hollis’s first stabs at music 16:15 John’s reaction to Hollis’s early work 18:00 Altadena and Hollis losing his childhood home in the L.A. fires 23:03 ‘The 2hollis effect’ with fans 25:45 Going offline 32:15 The ever-present ‘nepo baby’ conversation 37:30 2hollis live shows 45:40 The ol’ college try 49:15 Current inspirations for Tortoise and 2hollis 01:00:45 Popcast Lightening Round! 1:12:03 Snack time! Follow Jon: Follow Joe: Listen to every Popcast ever Every episode of Popcast (Deluxe) on YouTube Popcast Discord! Popcast Facebook! Popcast t-shirts & stickers Subscribe: More from The New York Times Video: