Jonni Shreve Reveals How Mike Israetel Turned On Him Ft. Lyle McDonald

Jonni Shreve discusses his falling out with Mike Israetel, offering humorous insights into bodybuilding. The conversation covers Jonni’s history with Israetel (2:00), Israetel’s decision to juice (16:34), insecurity among bodybuilders (19:27), comments on cosmetic surgery (27:07), competitive prospects (32:43), willpower (46:04), coachability (53:07), RIR‑based training effectiveness (1:08:03), client management (1:17:25), comparisons to Mike Mentzer (1:20:09), raw IQ scale claims (1:22:58), basics work best (1:33:53), critique of the curl‑press‑flye exercise (1:38:50), cut‑out for competition (1:44:36), track record (1:50:35), psychological traits (1:51:50), humility lesson (1:52:03), critics response (1:59:06), improvement suggestions (2:04:18), hostile messages (2:06:53), public vs private criticism (2:14:23), cosmetic surgery and tan (2:21:23), roid rage (2:26:55), receptiveness to criticism (2:32:14), and concludes with final thoughts (2:38:12).