Томас Гайсанов | Авторитет Мысли (AM podcast #194)

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Speaker 1

Thank you.

Speaker 7

Thank you.

Speaker 1

That's why underground is closer to me, because the value of authority is not so important there.

The authority of thought is important there.

That is, if your thought is authoritative, okay.

Speaker 5

We are on air.

Speaker 4

We are live for the first time after a two-week pause in a new mode.

Once every two weeks we are live, which means that your favorite podcast, the top-2 podcast in Russia called Authority of Thoughts is with you again.

And today we will listen to the authority of thoughts of Thomas Gaisanova.

Hello, Thomas.

Hello, David.

Thank you for inviting me.

What is the name of your client?

My client's name is Hamlet.

Hamlet.

Stylova.

Stylova.

Stylova.

This is a reference to Shakespeare.

A very thin reference.

Actually, it was unexpected that we met today.

It was a mystical account.

Yes, especially since you won't meet a lot of people like that in the streets of Moscow.

By the way, you dressed very well.

What do you mean dub-comics?

Artists, egocentrics.

Behind the scenes we have beautiful Alana.

Hello, Alana, how are you?

Speaker 5

Yes, hello, everything is great, thank you for asking.

Speaker 4

Don't you know, Alana, this is your MacBook, how to make sure it doesn't go out and you don't have to fix it periodically and the chat is constantly visible?

Speaker 5

Yes, we look at ourselves and at the chat.

You have to press play.

Speaker 4

What play?

Speaker 5

What do you mean?

Did you press stop on the video itself?

Speaker 4

No, no, the video is going.

Okay, we'll figure it out later.

How are you?

We haven't seen each other for a hundred years, by the way.

We signed up in advance, but we haven't seen each other for a very long time.

I will not hide it, I lost track of what you do, what, where, how.

I remember that in our last visit you had the intention to reduce the amount of work in the comedy field, to distract yourself.

I know that you traveled both in Russia and around the world.

I'm just trying to figure out when to ask how you're doing.

Speaker 2

I don't even know.

When was the last time?

Do you remember when it was?

Speaker 4

I think it's been more than a year and a half.

Speaker 2

I'll take a look now.

That's great.

How did we meet today?

It's amazing.

We don't really see each other on the streets.

And here is a person as a monument.

I was surprised.

Speaker 4

I scanned 4 seconds.

Me too.

It can't be.

Speaker 2

We have a stream in the evening and we met somewhere in the afternoon by accident.

Speaker 4

Yes, it's Masalana today.

But, by the way, we didn't buy this t-shirt today.

This shirt, more precisely.

I think Yana gave it to me, right?

Katya.

Oh, Katya, that's it.

My friend Alana gave it to me.

We bought more default clothes today.

And you actually drove behind Hamlet, as I understand it.

Speaker 2

Well, in short, I have such a concept that this is how I dress in real life.

Because I don't shine that much, I can say anything.

I can say that this is my disco era.

Speaker 4

Can you imagine having such a trigger in people's heads now, that if you walk around the city and someone is dressed very strangely... Thomas?

It's a big chance.

Let's start from now and go back in time.

Where are you now, as a rule?

I've been here for a month and a half, two months, as a rule, in Moscow.

Speaker 2

And I plan to stay here until winter, at least.

Speaker 4

Well, by the way, the schedule is good, in the sense that it is pleasant to be in Moscow in the summer.

Speaker 2

I hope so, yes.

Well, in short, I will not say that I like Moscow very much, I already have such a long history of relations with the city, its size, in short, the distance is very straining.

I lived in these smaller cities and realized that this is my, in short, size.

Yes?

When?

10-15 minutes, in short, walking, maximum on a scooter, and you are already anywhere you need.

And here you drive for an hour or an hour and a half.

The whole system is history.

Speaker 4

And if...

I just don't have much experience, but you can definitely notice it with Vladikavkaz.

Well, in general, they often say that the rhythm of people's work is much slower than in Moscow, that people are in no hurry.

In addition to the fact that the distance is small, people are still, as a rule, like, yes, let's do it later.

They are so tense.

I mean, I remember that I came to Moscow and probably spent some time in Moscow before I came back to Vladikavkaz for the first time.

And when I arrived, this period of 1.5-2 years was enough for me to be very surprised at how slowly people walk on the water of the Caucasus.

Literally the speed.

I look and think, these people are happy.

It looks as if they are happy.

Of course.

When you go somewhere like this, you don't go, you just swim.

The sun is shining, you enjoy every second.

In Moscow, head down, forward, cruising speed, you went.

Speaker 2

It's good in certain life tasks, circumstances.

And it was a little different for me then.

Now it's like that again.

Now you need to be in a tunnel of thought again, and just try to break everything you can every day.

As far as I can see, I think, purpose and aspiration.

Speaker 4

When I first saw this suit, the first thing I thought about was purpose and aspiration.

There was a goal, it was achieved.

Speaker 2

This is what people who prepare for something look like.

So, I'm whining a little bit about Moscow, but in general, everything is fine.

Speaker 4

By the way, in addition to the fact that I already see in the chat that you get compliments for your appearance, I would like to ask you...

Thank you, don't forget about it.

Yes, I also had to scold Patrice.

Well, in general, it's probably already too late, in the sense that I wanted to ask how you like the sound of the picture, but in general, no complaints from anyone, knowing my audience, someone would have already said for sure that something is wrong.

Speaker 2

Let me put it on the TG channel too.

Speaker 4

I haven't written anything for almost half a year.

Come on, come on.

Too exciting shirt.

But today is like that.

Today we have such vibes.

And then tell me, while you are doing a repost or a post in Telegram, what are you doing in Moscow?

Because I really don't know if it's related to comedy or not.

Speaker 2

Well, what is it related to?

I do different things, in short, very different things.

The priority now is to make content again, some kind of educational, a little entertaining.

This is the most important thing now.

But besides that,

Of course, I sometimes mess around with comedians, I see something, I won't say that I follow and watch, but I have such a challenge, for example, I took a book to write about stand-up.

Wow, about stand-up.

Relatively speaking, the roots and traditions of Russian-language stand-up.

Such a working name.

Speaker 4

Okay, so you mean to lay out on the shelves how it all went and developed?

Speaker 2

Well, how it all went and developed, of course, it is important to mention.

But personally, it seems to me that this is not the most interesting.

The interesting thing is how it looks here.

That is, how it differs from Western stand-up.

Because here, in its own way, the tradition itself, in short, everything is composed of works on text.

It is clear that there are many things that are the same.

But it has its own interesting differences, which are built into the context of the whole post-Soviet space.

And I'm interested in it.

Speaker 4

Oh, cool.

So it's not just some historical excursion, but it's an analysis of the current state, what has affected us, what is changing.

Speaker 2

No, not the current state, but the phenomenon of such an unexpected thing, if you look back, that it has become such a demanded and interesting cultural phenomenon for people.

And it is interesting to highlight how it appeared, due to what, and what it is interesting about.

For me, it is interesting how it fits into all the heritage of humor, speech, writing skills, and so on.

Speaker 4

Listen, maybe I can ask you then, as a small spoiler of what will most likely be in this book, in the sense that you have a rich experience,

not only in Moscow and Russian cities, but also in Georgia, Armenia, Kazakhstan.

Can you tell us

In short, about all these parties, tell us how the Georgian stand-up party differs from the Armenian one, from the Kazakh one, what are their features in your opinion?

Speaker 2

I think it's okay to talk only about Almaty, not the entire Kazakh stand-up.

Oh, Almaty?

Yes, yes, yes.

Because you've been there longer?

Well, I spent three days in Astana in total in my life, and in Almaty for two and a half years, at least.

About Georgian stand-up.

I was in Armenia for a few days, for almost 3 years.

I spent a lot of time in Tbilisi last summer, but I didn't care about stand-up at all.

I was in my own micro-world, trying to do an educational project.

Almaty stand-up then.

Almaty stand-up is, of course, an interesting phenomenon.

Speaker 4

I'm subscribed to several comedians.

By the way, I don't know why his name is like that.

I mean, why his friends are called like that.

Chinna.

Chinna, yes.

Shingis Irmak.

Yes, Shingis Irmak.

I know him like that because I remember

I first saw his TNT Mono, where he had a funny joke, and I just liked his charisma as a whole.

I don't think we even crossed paths with him once in our life, but in the end we saw on the Internet that he was also good at basketball, but he's just a funny guy, and I'm looking at him.

Slava Nikiforov is still here,

Slava is an ally, an artist.

Speaker 2

Yes.

Speaker 4

By the way, in my opinion, I am now often given contextual advertising, it seems that he is now in Moscow, because he gives me, or he is traveling, but he gives me periodic advertising that he has some kind of concert, maybe in Moscow in the near future.

I have a lot, I have a lot of volume.

Can you turn it a little bit more?

Speaker 2

Yes, here.

That's it, please.

I'm already sitting right next to the audience.

Speaker 4

And I'll move away from the audience a little bit.

Speaker 2

So, Almaty stand-up is very original, because it is based on the color of the language of the people who live there.

It is, of course, different, it differs from Moscow, it differs from even Russian cities.

They are warm spectators, very contactable, always waiting.

Therefore, the stand-up itself is also so courageous and, relatively speaking, a bit pirate-like.

They are cheeky, these comedians.

And this is what stands out for me.

And what stands out is that the comedians have different performances.

You rarely see when people have a typology of presentation, you know.

For some reason, I don't know why, but they always have some kind of their own artistry, their own authenticity.

I didn't have enough of that here, to be honest.

Speaker 4

By the way, in Moscow, it seems that the era of Chaparian's presentation has also passed a couple of years.

You don't often see this Deadpan presentation anymore.

Now, I look at it like this, often on open mic I can see that the comic was not very interested in the text component, but in terms of presentation, often new comics are laid out in such a way that I look and think what passion there is in all this.

Speaker 2

Well, thank God, but this is very important, I think.

Speaker 4

Yes, I sometimes notice that I don't have enough of it.

I'm trying to twist this thing, it's an important topic.

When we look at all our Western idols...

Analogues.

Analogues, yes.

Colleagues, our Western colleagues.

I can't remember anyone at all.

Is there anyone from the top deadpunks?

I mean, Louis, Bill Burr, Chappelle, there are a lot of emotions everywhere.

Of course, the professionalism there is in the fact that the emotionality is not taken out, but at the same time there is a lot of it.

This is a very passionate presentation, but at the same time they were able to make it look natural.

Well, that's the task.

Yes, yes, sometimes I watch Louis C.K.

and it seems to me that he just tells, and sometimes I can turn on the scanner and think,

Fuck, every eyebrow is moving, the face, he's like this, he's telling something, he's surprised.

That is, in general, in ordinary life, a person does not talk like that.

But he does it so cool that you don't notice it when he performs, he just gives the material.

Speaker 2

Well, this is the most important question for any comic, to find this state of courage on the stage, to reproduce it every time, to enter it, this is what they come to.

Speaker 4

Yes, I would, by the way, now I thought that

Who would I call in Russian-language CIS stand-up?

There are a lot of comedians who express themselves incredibly.

But I don't know, maybe because I know colleagues in the workshop and their lives, but there is a feeling that I still notice a little bit that this is an artist now.

That is, so far it is not so 100% harmonious that I do not pay attention to it.

Valya Sidorov, Kirill Mazur, Rasul Chebdara are all very expressive comedians.

But when I look at it, I think it's a lot of expressions.

Sometimes it seems to me that there are too many expressions.

I understand that the audience likes it, because you came to the show.

Of course.

You don't need to be talked to as in life.

I came to the show to make a show here.

Speaker 2

I think it's very important to know how to do it.

It can be cool to change the rhythm in a good song, but I think that's how they do it.

Speaker 4

And there are a lot of people like that in Kazakhstan.

Speaker 2

Yes, there are a lot of expressive people, but not in the comics themselves.

But they show it a lot, that is, you don't necessarily take a Kazakh, even if it's a Russian or a German, a Korean, he definitely has an authentic presentation for some reason.

On the other hand, I notice that, for example, the content and spelling are often lame, maybe.

Speaker 4

Maybe, because there is a balance there.

You know, I heard a small excerpt from the couloir, that it happened that someone comes,

from Kazakhstan and complain that he is some kind of a heavy spectator in Moscow.

Speaker 2

Well, of course, there is a warmer spectator.

Of course, I think it can shock them.

Speaker 4

A big contrast.

Speaker 2

Well, yes, but I hope that they will come more often anyway, because if you can laugh here, as they say, you can laugh everywhere.

Therefore, this is for those who are ready to challenge themselves, in short, and move from warm, always cheerful halls to more nosovsky, Moscow halls.

It would be cool.

Speaker 4

And the next level from Moscow, I heard that in Kazan, I don't know if it's called top stand-up or local big stand-up in Kazan, it's even harder there.

Many people from Moscow who go to Kazan say that it's even harder there.

Speaker 2

Damn, I want to be there now and not laugh.

And not laugh too.

Highly.

Well, in general, it's interesting, and some guys are already coming, performing, leaving and planning further, so I don't know, I would be glad to see them here at the performances, so that they perform and return back, well, acquiring the skills needed for them, if possible.

Speaker 4

I have never asked you, dear viewers, a little technical distraction, I forgot to ask you, when connecting to the broadcast, do not forget to like, subscribe to the channel, leave comments, all this helps the activity, and plus, I will remind you again about our additional, in the description you can see that we have not only Donation Alerts, but also, sorry, a service has appeared,

Send Donate, through which you can send a voice message via Telegram, a circle in Telegram, a picture, a text.

That is, we will show all this on the stream.

If you want to ask a question with your own voice, for example, we can arrange it here on the stream.

Therefore, in the description there is Send Donate.

Well, by the way, let me say right away, maybe we will smoothly start talking about this, that in the description there are still links to the new Toulouse YouTube channel.

VK community of Thomas, which will be connected to this YouTube channel, and your Telega.

Yes.

We know about your Telega, and who doesn't know, subscribe.

Speaker 2

Subscribe, otherwise I won't write anything, it's been a long time.

Subscribe for silence, if you want a quiet place on the Internet.

Speaker 4

And how do you think, if there were, conditionally, 100 thousand, would you write more often?

Speaker 2

I don't know, I'm not sure.

Speaker 4

Well, we need to check, so subscribe to the channel.

Speaker 2

Now we will find out, in fact, today we will find out your marketing effectiveness.

Yes.

We see, there were 1-1 subscribers everywhere.

Do not underestimate, do not underestimate, please subscribe.

Yes, yes, show David what you are capable of, and for now we will tell you why.

Speaker 4

About the new YouTube channel, yes, please tell us.

Well, yes, the channel.

I see that it says, understand.

Speaker 2

Yes, well, we decided to call it that.

For now, let's see how it goes.

But yes, understand it, because the cognitive content and the first project will be just an attempt to understand the phenomenon of, in principle, grandiosity.

The project is called The Code of Grandiosity, and I hope it will be a long story about how we try to understand what makes people become grand on specific examples.

That is, one issue is one example.

Now we will release the first issue of the new week about a grandiose figure that has influenced all our lives, believe me.

And we will try to understand what, due to what circumstances, due to what internal aspirations, character traits.

That is, it was this person who was able to achieve such a large scale.

Speaker 4

What are we talking about there?

Speaker 2

Well, yes.

Well, I don't want to spoil it, although I can say, I think.

Well, the first one will be about Steve Jobs, that is, people of this level, from history, from more modern, some phenomena of culture, science, sports, business.

In general, the guest himself chooses the person that we analyze.

Speaker 4

Ah, that is, there is also an invited guest.

Yes.

And as an invited guest, who?

Speaker 2

Well, I call someone from the friends, those with whom it is interesting to talk.

He chooses, as a rule, the person himself that we analyze.

I also call to strengthen the third guest, who can deepen there.

That is, we had a release about the actress, we called the actress, the director.

Wait, have there already been releases?

Well, a few have already been shot.

Speaker 4

Ah, it's all shot.

Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2

Not yet dropped, but already shot.

Yes, yes, yes.

We will start releasing from the new week.

The last ones we have now.

Before the release, it takes so much time.

In general, this is the code of grandiosity.

Speaker 4

It's cool to dig into what traits of a person led him there.

Speaker 2

I noticed that everyone has unique paths, of course.

Because I have already done some tests.

These are unique paths, but I want to find common patterns in all this.

That is, what each of them did, what led them to such a scale, to such achievements.

Speaker 4

At what age did their father tell them that they would not succeed?

Speaker 2

Well, it's different for everyone.

In fact, it's very interesting.

Speaker 4

No, it's really interesting.

It's really interesting.

Many of us, first of all, want to climb a little higher and climb, and in such things you usually equate yourself to people who have achieved a lot and look at what they are doing.

How did they do it?

What can I take from it?

Maybe I don't want to take something from it, but I want to.

Speaker 2

Of course.

This is the way for everyone.

An important thing that I have already understood is that you will not live someone else's life.

It is amazing that these people very subtly revealed their code, their life program.

That is, they built themselves into the context of time, into the environment from which they are.

They seem to have all their own assumptions, some setbacks.

That's what's interesting.

It's interesting, of course, for everyone who is watching to ask these questions.

In fact, this is only one question from each episode.

What is the greatness of a person?

Yes.

And besides YouTube, there will be a Telegram channel, in which there will be a continuation of what we did not have time to reveal there, to reveal additionally.

And I really want people, viewers, to participate in this too, in the comments, to write their versions, observations, in short, the prerequisites that they have identified, and so on.

I want us all to find the answer to the question together.

The code of grandiosity of a person.

Such a task.

Speaker 4

Will you not share the guests?

Speaker 2

No, I think we need to leave a little surprise.

Speaker 4

Okay, I got it.

Are you sitting somewhere in the studio, in the room?

Speaker 2

The studio is so beautiful.

Speaker 4

I saw you in Insti, is it over there?

Speaker 2

Yes, yes.

Speaker 4

Damn, it's stylish.

Speaker 2

Listen, we are trying to find our own style.

Speaker 4

It was in the stories, so you will hardly find it.

Speaker 2

Like this.

But soon, soon.

Soon on all channels.

I think you need to post everything everywhere.

Speaker 5

David writes there that the link is not working, but in general, I can't go either.

Link to YouTube?

Yes, David will correct it after the release.

Speaker 2

As soon as we finish, he will correct everything.

Well, okay.

Speaker 4

And immediately go and wait.

I did ctrl-c, ctrl-a, but we will do it now, now we will do it, now we will leave.

Do you know what you can do, Alan?

Thomas sent me a copy of the link in the cart, send it to the chat and fix it in the chat.

And after the broadcast, I will send it.

This is luxury.

Yes, just so that the link is also available during the broadcast.

Speaker 2

In general, the studio is also there for a reason, we all make it together.

There is an art director, Misha Liberty, you know him, he used to be with you.

Naturally.

Of course.

And we, as it turned out, are generally like-minded people.

Exactly in the style that we are trying to find there, I think it will still change, look for.

We call it media nissans.

What do you mean?

Medianessence.

Speaker 4

Medianessence?

Speaker 2

Yes.

This is such a serious acceleration in which I have been immersed for several months, but in general I want to start such a movement a little bit.

It is not rude to say now, so as not to offend anyone, but in general ... And not rude, I will say that there is a renaissance, like the era that was then, after the Middle Ages.

And this era, it created, so to speak, some kind of archetype, valuable, philosophical, attitude to culture, attitude to people of art, to the economy of art, and so on.

And it seems to me that there are a lot of interesting moments in the Renaissance that can be re-actualized today, so to speak.

For example, there is an expression of a person from the Renaissance era, that is, a person who is engaged in different arts, sciences, and first of all he is Leonardo or Michelangelo, that is, he is the author.

who wants to show himself in everything he wants.

And I think this is becoming very relevant today.

That is, all sorts of things that worked out then, I think, in today's media field can actually give guidelines that are not enough.

Because media is trash, I think.

Speaker 4

It seems to me that something is wrong with my link, Thomas.

Let me give you another one.

So, here I go through the link, here my YouTube opens.

Yes, something is wrong with the link.

That's it, I'm sending a link that's less beautiful.

Come on.

Oh, you see it, Alan, in the cart.

That's it.

Then you fix that, and fix this.

Let me go through this link.

And yes, it opens.

Speaker 2

That's it.

Now there will be a correct link.

Well, Dave, I'm always thinking about the Renaissance.

Speaker 4

Well, Len, I have a meme in my head.

What?

He's thinking about his life again.

Speaker 2

About the Roman Empire then.

No, no, I'm thinking about the Renaissance.

Listen, well, it's being conceptualized, and we'll see, we'll see.

To be honest, I have already recovered in my master's degree and took a topic related to it.

Speaker 4

Oh, wow.

Speaker 2

It is the archetype of the Renaissance as a guide in the crisis of media culture.

Well, it's a working name, so to speak, until it has been confirmed.

Wow, seriously.

Well, I really want to figure it out.

Speaker 4

You know what's interesting?

Yes.

When you raise such a topic,

in your work, you then protect this work.

I have to protect it.

Are you sure that the people who will accept your work will have enough expertise in this field?

Of course.

Yes?

Speaker 2

Of course.

Unlike me.

Speaker 4

I just thought that maybe this is a topic that has not risen before.

I'm just interested in what criteria is the work evaluated?

Speaker 2

Well, the candidate dissertation is a fairly regulated artifact, so to speak.

Here you don't have to shine with your novelty and sharpness of thought, but you have to comply with the necessary formal rules and descriptions.

That is, I will not add anything there, I will take what is there and try to reassemble it.

That's what my task is.

I have to do it correctly.

And then, in this case, I have to defend myself.

Speaker 4

I can not take it out.

You will work with existing data and somehow move them into something to collect.

I thought that this is exactly, as you said, something innovative, something that I will go now, I will raise such a topic that no one has ever raised, and on this topic I will also push thoughts that no one has ever thought about.

And that's why I think, how can these thoughts be evaluated if they sound for the first time?

No, no, no, of course it's not like that.

Speaker 2

To be honest, I hope that I will.

I can't say that I am absolutely sure about it at the moment.

But I am trying to arrange my activities.

I am ready to deal with the code of grandiosity for hours.

For example, I am reading Mayakovsky's 5th or 6th book now, because I like it.

And I am really interested in this topic.

When you are passionately interested, that's what you have to do.

And here is the same thing, I am passionately annoyed by the modern media.

I'm trying to understand what it can lead to, or rather what it can lead to, how can it be predicted, how to get out of it on time.

Speaker 4

How do you like modern media?

In general, in the broad sense?

Yes.

Yes, it's sad.

I remember that literally a few days ago

I'll try to remember whose quote it was.

I remembered.

No, I didn't remember.

It's someone from...

It's spinning in my head.

Someone from the political activists.

He was working for some opposition media and he told that he refused to work there.

put forward a number of requirements.

That you don't run your own YouTube channel, we have...

Speaker 2

They have a agenda, that's what it's called.

Speaker 4

Yes, you need to stick to it.

Speaker 2

I'm not talking about this, I'm not talking about the media.

That is, it is these media, some classic ones, which we are used to perceive by the word media, they still lost a little bit, they lost a little bit in relevance among, say, people of our generation and younger.

We have other media, we have this nonsense, which is unpredictable while it affects our heads.

Speaker 4

Are you talking about production?

Speaker 2

No, I'm talking about social networks, first of all, Telegram and all other grams.

And most importantly, about the content that we see.

Speaker 4

The content is everywhere, the feeling that you are being fed with something.

But it is still difficult for me to talk about this topic, because lately I have been thinking more and more about

I watched Duda with Kissin, and he put forward a thought, I don't know, maybe you didn't watch it?

I didn't watch it.

Well, the guy, he is generally from the British political agenda, he is hanging out in Britain, he is kind of from Russia, but here, in fact, only the knowledge of the Russian language connects him with Russia, he is all there.

Okay.

But he just put forward the topic that, not a new thought, but that

Social media is more harmful than cigarettes.

It's a bad habit.

Speaker 2

They'll probably prove it soon.

So far, we feel that it has a negative effect on us.

Speaker 4

Yes, and I'm an angry consumer of all this.

Of course.

I'm just scrolling.

Speaker 2

And who doesn't, David?

Everyone lives like that now, a lot of people live like that.

Speaker 4

If so, it will calm me down.

It seems to me that I just have a girl living next to me, who, well, she also sits on social networks, but I just, it seems to me, helpless.

I really sometimes sit and think that ... What kind of girl, David?

There is one there, you don't know.

That in my life it is very difficult for me to sit like this,

And sit like this.

I sit behind the computer, get up from the computer, take out the phone.

Fall on the sofa.

Yes, I fall on the sofa with the phone, I go eat, turn on something on the phone, I, pardon, in the boudoir, of course, something on the phone, I fall asleep, I have something on the phone playing.

I go to the taxi to perform, I have something on my phone, for 20 minutes, an hour I am performing, at this time I am not sitting on the phone, I left the performance, so what is there, are there any notifications?

Of course there is, now we will go through everything.

I already, as you say, I feel it, but until the doctor told me, they didn't put a stamp that, yes, yes, you don't think so, it's really a bad habit.

Speaker 2

Listen, well, if honest institutional doctors remain, then I think we will inevitably find out that it is harmful.

You know, like cigarettes, it seems not harmful, they say, until they say anything that it, on the contrary, helps the lungs, but people feel something, the same here.

I've been smoking for a year and nothing has changed.

Speaker 4

Well, yes, a little less energy, yes, a little there.

Speaker 2

Demotivated, a little bit of false standards, just a little bit of reality is not interesting, the real one.

Yes, yes, yes.

And you are swiping your days.

Yes.

That is, there is a crisis of form, clip.

We don't know yet where it's all going.

We see that it is shrinking.

and our focus is reduced, and there is a crisis of maintenance itself.

Speaker 4

This is such a claim.

Well, maintenance is, of course, also a separate topic for discussion, it's just this conveyor, conveyor...

These are conveyors.

Speaker 2

Conveyors of very mediocre quality, it's just... We are talking about what people do, and more and more of what neurons do.

Speaker 4

Recently I found out about Reels, where a guy with a microphone comes up to people and says, well, are you also a neural network?

And there is an old woman, a woman, a boy, a boy, and it's all neural networks.

For a long time I have seen videos where they say that it will soon be indistinguishable, but these videos are absolutely indistinguishable.

Of course.

It's just that there is an old woman who says, what, you are also a neural network?

She turns the camera like that, her eyes are red, well, of course.

And that is, the voice, the facial expressions, it is generally indistinguishable, that is, the atmosphere, and there is a cut in a row.

I see some kind of video where

A woman, a granny.

I have a hippopotamus at home, and there's a minute video of her going to the store on a hippopotamus, and it's all created by neural networks, and it's indistinguishable from reality.

Speaker 2

Well, it's at least qualitative, what you're saying.

I'm talking about the fact that the vast majority of this is garbage.

And not always people can distinguish.

One psychological YouTube channel caught me like that.

I just look, until I see that the pressure is absurdly wrong, I say, wow, you already have hundreds of thousands of views and so on, you already have a year.

And apparently nothing of this person does.

Speaker 4

This is generally tough.

I will tell you one more thing.

I follow crypto and there are crypto-influencer channels.

And in addition to my channels, all these crypto-influencers usually

There are closed Telegram channels where you pay money and they give a little more detailed information.

And there are channels that merge audio recordings from closed Telegram channels.

And there are channels that allegedly merge recordings from closed channels, but this is not a neural network with this voice.

He is an influential influencer, and he says that yesterday he bought this coin, and these guys from this coin made this fake throw through EE, allegedly from a closed Telegram channel, where he advises to buy this coin, and there are such fraudulent schemes.

Cool, cool.

By the way, scammers are very hardworking.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, I have to say, they are real.

They are hardworking.

They immediately pick up innovations.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, yes.

First of all.

These are real people who do not need to be asked to work.

They themselves, if there is an option to come up with something, they use everything.

All neural networks, calls, video calls.

Speaker 2

By the way, I have not seen any positive phenomena in the media.

Ilya Kuruch, if I put the right emphasis, his show.

Speaker 4

And I did not see what he uses there.

Speaker 2

The point is that he calls someone, I think it was mostly comedians, and he calls the swindler, and his task is to do all sorts of tasks while he's talking to the swindler.

And he wins the money, roughly speaking, that this swindler didn't take from the others.

That's the mechanics.

It's a great show.

He made a very competent balance.

For example, what schemes are used, why do you need to follow, tell your friends, and so on.

It's really fun to mix them up.

Speaker 4

How do they keep them?

I'm just curious, how do they find a connection with the swindler?

Speaker 2

Look, I didn't figure it out.

Maybe there's just a number somewhere, a base, and they call you right away.

But there, in my opinion, they take the call, if I'm not mistaken.

And that's how they communicate and keep each other.

If all this is not done by neural networks, of course.

Speaker 4

Absolutely everything.

Now about anything at the end you can say, if all this, of course, is not done by neural networks.

Speaker 2

Listen, but I think that very soon the media will be obliged to make a mandatory marking of neurons.

Speaker 4

I think this is a necessary step.

When I launch a broadcast on YouTube, a button has already appeared, like, it is necessary to write whether IE is used in this video or not.

Speaker 2

Yes, in our video everything is real.

Speaker 4

And what can cause doubts in a person?

Do we look like ordinary people?

Speaker 2

Yes, I am in our usual state.

In general, I think a lot about the media and the crisis in them.

Speaker 4

Damn, it's cool, it's interesting, even now it's like this, we've gone so far and it's already interesting.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 4

Let's find out what people think, because I heard that we received a few donations, plus I also received a send-donate.

Give the donations to David.

Send us your questions.

Your questions are especially valuable to us, not so much money.

Speaker 5

I'm trying to sit here.

Speaker 4

Now it will appear on the air.

The name of the sender is Dmitry.

Without text, he sends us such a donation.

You will also see it on the screen now.

I don't know what it means.

What would it be for?

It will appear now.

Oh, well, it has already appeared there.

He sent her such a photo.

She is now in the audience.

Is this someone from some game?

There's a video where a guy in a suit, well, in a jacket, a little different color, doesn't look like yours at all.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 4

And they ask him, what's your name?

And he says, Mafiosnik.

Yes, yes, yes.

This is what Mafiosnik sent us, yes.

I only had this, Alan, the rest is yours, yes.

Thank you, Dmitry, for the donation and for the algaric joke.

Speaker 2

I'm ready to talk about the crisis of the media and the renaissance around the clock, so guys, there's something else.

Speaker 5

Donat, I'm Alana, 100 rubles, good evening.

Damn, I can't see the guest's face for how awesome it is to see everything that Dima Gavrilov puts out on Boost.

Come in and watch.

Speaker 4

Thank you for Donat.

Thank you, subscribe, this is Dima Gavrilov's workhorse, every stream calls like this.

Speaker 2

There is a topic.

So, swearing.

I noticed it.

Since I was 21, I haven't been in Moscow for a couple of months, and the biggest break has been in the last six months, now, in 2024-2025.

And I see how things change in people.

I noticed that people started swearing a lot more on the streets.

I was surprised, I gave up.

Did you give up?

Did you notice?

I noticed it behind my back, and I try not to use it so much.

Speaker 4

But apparently, because I notice it behind my back, I already perceive it as a norm around me.

That's right, it wasn't like that before.

Speaker 2

Kids, adults, everyone.

Yes, yes, yes, everyone just shouts and swears.

It wasn't like that.

It's amazing.

Did you think why?

Speaker 4

I don't know why, despite the fact that I'm not from Vladikavkaz, I'm from a small city nearby and I entered the university when I was 18 years old.

When I was 18-19 years old, I was already an adult, the first year of high school, and I was yelling at a one-year-old at the university that she was swearing, because I was the type of person who... You are a girl, what language do you speak?

Yes, yes, that is, in Ordone, where I grew up, girls don't swear.

very rarely could she shout one word and she shouted it only because it was already an overwhelming extreme degree of indignation if a girl allowed herself to say one word in a rush of rage.

And then I moved to Vladikavkaz, in Vladikavkaz there were a little more free-spirited people.

I don't know how it is now, I'm also talking about 2000...

Oh my God, the 9th year.

Speaker 2

Well, I would take the last 5 years, because I remember that 5 years ago people were swearing on the streets, but in short, they were either in some kind of state, in general, already far behind, or people still, if they were swearing, then they did it quietly, in short, there was no such thing as swearing, they walked like this, in short, talked.

Speaker 5

And you say it because you don't like it.

Yes, I don't like it.

Speaker 2

I don't like the fact that the culture of speech has fallen.

Damn, I'm so bored and I have to move.

It was better in our time.

That's right, when I was born, people communicated very culturally.

If you just look, again, in the middle of the 90s, all sorts of chronicles and so on.

crisis, the country collapsed, everything is bad, but people talk culturally.

Especially when they see the cameras.

And now, when people see the cameras, they seem to be generally ... Well, I try not to offend anyone.

Speaker 4

Do you know what thoughts it makes me think of?

The times are now more free in terms of what they said, that this is the USSR ... Well, like society itself.

The society is biased, conservative, thinks a lot about... Maybe there are people who will say, people didn't swear, not because they are such good people, but just because they thought about what they would think about them.

And now people don't think about it, they got more freedom, and that's actually what led to this.

And more and more often, this is such a thought, more and more often thoughts come to me that it's cool

to have freedom, but to set some restrictions for yourself.

Speaker 2

Of course.

Speaker 4

Yes, because if there are no restrictions, then you are just in some kind of mud, like a dough, and you turn into a guy who is like, I don't care about this society, I will be an adult, children, I don't care, and that's it, and there it goes.

Speaker 2

Well, there is a quote about the rule of limitations, I don't remember whose, but the point is that beware of excesses, because unlike everything else, they don't know the boundaries.

The point is that where you don't have a border, you can crawl very far and not notice.

Yes, yes.

Especially if something affects you so that you crawl.

And the media, for example, affects the fact that you speak less culturally.

But the public environment, just the streets are also located now.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, yes.

Many people on YouTube at some point overcame TV due to the fact that many people... Freedom!

Yes, yes, freedom.

I'm going to say now that it's shit, and you're just spitting shit, and the person is watching, like, wow, I recently watched TV, and now I'm also watching TV.

I'm talking about those times, if anyone remembers them.

Alan, bring me, please.

cola or mineral water if we have mineral water and the second mineral water too do you still have wine?

And I drank more than one glass.

And due to this freedom and at that time these newcomers from the retail stores also gained some popularity.

After that, for me, it was such a small cultural shock when I learned about Twitch and about the most popular people from there.

Well, all these top streamers now, Booster, Evelon, they all

If you, dear viewers, dive a little into the world of Twitch and see what kind of people they are, it's all rage.

I'm not talking about trash streamers, like Maelstroi.

I'm talking about even these people.

And I understand that they are probably...

Yes, pass it on.

Thank you very much.

Yes.

In short, all these boosters, Avelons, when you turn on their streams, they are in some video games, but this is even YouTube already compared to this, well, there can just be such a 20-minute tirade with screams and swearing.

And this is what children like.

The dude is angry, screaming, and they are watching this.

Maybe it will sound snobbish, but I don't want to sound like some old fart, that they teach bad to children.

But if we throw away this thought, then in fact, children watch Twitch, on Twitch there is mostly a children's audience, because they watch these let's play players playing video games.

And the most popular people are our peers, already 25-30 years old.

Speaker 2

Professionally swearing.

Speaker 4

Professionally swearing dudes, yes.

He's just like, you and I, your mother.

Despite the fact that there are bans on Twitch as well.

Well, yes, their own.

But all the words that can be said.

Immediately comfort passed.

Yes, there is such an advertisement, well, okay.

That is, all the words that can be said, they just use them in a tenfold measure.

Speaker 2

I would like to stop at this, in fact.

As for the children, they have a position, as far as I understand, we are not your parents, in short, we should not educate you, we do what?

The parents decide this problem themselves, this is their position.

Speaker 4

It's a convenient position.

I don't agree with this position.

I don't agree at all.

It's convenient, yes.

It's convenient, but in fact you play like a fool.

Like you don't understand that you influence children, but it's so obvious that you influence them.

Because all these rafshans, all these top streamers, when they go out on the street, I just watched all these streams, I also sit on Twitch, because I love watching video games, I watch a little bit of other dudes, less popular, apparently due to the fact that they

not so much use this lexicon, but I also included these ones.

And I don't want to say that they became famous only through swearing, of course, they are talented, I think they like it a lot.

No, they are funny, cool dudes, but the fact is that I watched all their streams, and when they go out on the street, their children just stick around, they just run after their cars, they have a hard time with them, and in these conditions,

Everyone can see that they are not stupid people, they are talented people who understand everything perfectly.

And I think that they understand this detail too.

It's just a convenient position to say that let your parents take care of your upbringing, and I make content.

Speaker 2

Well, I wanted to say something else.

About MAD, what you said about the fact that it appeared on YouTube, it spread and so on.

Is MAD a hypothesis?

There is no such thing, especially in that context.

Speaker 4

Well, I would say it was once.

Speaker 2

It was once, and now it no longer works as a hypothesis.

And again, in contrast to restrictions, trash is just getting more and more intensified.

That's what we see.

Because at the end of the day, there are no limits to trash.

And the media is becoming more and more horizontal, accessible.

Trash is working more and more.

People understand it, those who make money on it.

And we see more and more trash in the media.

That's what it's all about.

Only the renaissance will save us.

I agree.

Speaker 4

Yes, you know, I would probably like to talk about it just in case, so as not to sound hypocritical, because I use math myself and try to use it less, that I am a supporter, probably, of the fact that math, of course, is part of the Russian language, but it would be cool to use it pointwise.

That is, from time to time, so that this wow effect comes back from math.

That is, I'm more even talking about performance, because you need to understand that

It's also a little bit separate, it's not a daily conversation, and on the stage it's possible to say something to enhance the emotions.

It does enhance the emotions, it's true.

Yes, but here too, again, if you don't set yourself restrictions, then in the end you fall into the fact that your punches turn into swear words.

Yes.

You also need to understand all this, so...

It would be cool to set a limit and adjust this balance so that you have a minimum, so that it is a small seasoning, and not the main dish.

Speaker 2

Of course, because otherwise it just doesn't work.

You just become a swearing man.

In fact, again, in an era when this is an absolute mainstream,

then you are no longer different.

Today, as if you are a cool alternative, in short, a marginal, if you just talk culturally and dress beautifully.

Speaker 4

Just kidding.

In general, I remember that for some time, well, rather, this is probably still not a criterion, but I remember this emotion that I often have.

My first association with Dima Romanov, which was often written to him during concerts, is that you can be funny without swearing.

And many comedians burned out from this in the sense that, yes, it's not funny, you just like it because there is no swearing there.

And regardless of whether it's funny or not, it's already a sign that

But really, almost all of stand-up there is a lot of swearing, and if you just don't have swearing, it's already advantageous.

Speaker 2

Of course, it's true, it affects the distribution.

In our stories for the night, for example, we avoided swearing, we didn't do swearing, and it became a bit of a family show.

This is in conservative, so to speak, regions, it was calmly distributed, shared, because people were not afraid to just show it to their sister and so on, to their brother.

Speaker 4

Damn, really, you can turn it on and the phone doesn't shake, like, oh, oh, sorry, this won't happen.

Igor Torletsky's concert, Igor doesn't swear either.

Great concert from the point of view that everything came together in the opinion that it is both funny and without swearing.

Speaker 2

Listen, I think there is some kind of future behind this, in fact, because, again, the era is such that there is a lot of trash, crap, in short, and people are hyping on social networks, and comedians will not be taken out if they are just people who are swearing from the stage, in short, they are hyping on this.

And it is just the anti-trend that can actually work here, if, for example,

By some miracle, I will throw out my soulful thought that comedians will try to increase the culture of speech.

Because many people still subconsciously perceive stand-up as the norm of speech.

Speaker 4

Well, yes, probably when a person looks and sees that people laugh at it, he can subconsciously take it as a role model.

Like, oh, you have to say it like that, because everyone around is laughing.

They are happy and love you.

Yes, yes, yes.

I'll try it the same way.

This is a bad joke with many comedians.

The beginning comic was seen by George Carlin or Dago Stanhope, and it came out the next day.

But it's more like a direct copy of a very bad quality, and as a result, a person is struck by silence.

But it's more like a mistake on the stage.

Speaker 2

Well, I still think that this will lead to new viewers, because I think a large number of people do not watch stand-up at all and are not interested in it for these reasons.

Although, on the other hand, this is stand-up, you can't go into it at all.

Stand-up is kind of such a bar, impudent, and so on.

Speaker 4

I was in Let's Get Married recently.

Respect.

In the meantime, my friend, who was invited by my fiance, invited me there.

He was like, will you be my friend?

I was like, of course, I will.

And while he was leaving to surprise my fiance, I chatted with Sibitova and Guzeeva.

They asked, I said that I was a stand-up comedian.

I asked, do you go to stand-up?

And they were like, yes, I listen to comedy radio regularly in the car, and to be honest, I'm disappointed by this stand-up.

I listened to all this female stand-up, it's not funny at all.

Speaker 5

David, did you add this from yourself?

Speaker 4

Why?

No, she really said separately about female stand-up, that it's not funny for her.

Then she said about stand-up on TNT, that everything is the same, everyone has the same jokes.

I told her that maybe you should go live and you will like it, because it's a different effect.

She says, thank you very much, but I went live and, like, it's different.

No, it was Sibitova.

Zeva was just very tired.

She really was very tired, and she said it.

She had to read some advertising text with a piece of paper, and a couple of simple sentences, but visually it was clear that she was tired.

And she herself, she just said, if you often buy things,

If you often buy...

I'm sorry, it's my fourth day without these...

I mean, you can see that she's tired, she talked about it and she literally couldn't say a few ordinary words.

Apparently, the pace of the work is super crazy.

Speaker 2

It was already difficult for her.

Well, it does take place, in fact.

Indeed, some people are not interested in stand-up because of the twist in this direction.

Speaker 4

Yes.

Talking again about the problems of the current media, which stamp direct content, probably this conveyor, it is difficult for us to calculate the number of people it pushed away from stand-up, who watched some kind of super-direct

super cool shot and super direct in terms of the content of the stand-up.

Speaker 2

Well, this is a matter of taste, someone will like it for sure.

Speaker 4

Oh, of course, this is such a dilemma, that someone likes this insert, it justifies any bullshit.

Because anyone will like any shit.

Speaker 2

Well, it depends on what values this artist relies on.

It's a personal choice for everyone.

Speaker 4

There are more reflective comics, there are less reflective ones.

I also thought about it.

I thought that there are comics that I watch,

And as for me, they do shit.

But then at some point I asked myself a question.

Do you really, David, think that this comic sits at the table and says to himself, I'll write shit.

That is, this is probably not a fair claim.

Probably this comic does what he thinks is funny.

Plus he finds people who also think it's funny.

It just seems to me that the cook cooked shit, and the restaurant visitors ate shit, and everyone was happy and left.

And I break into this restaurant and say, you are doing everything wrong.

Speaker 2

Well, I don't know, I'm very calm about it.

It's precisely because people approach creativity in different ways.

There is what I consider to be more correct.

Of course, I believe that a person should be on fire with this topic, that in stand-up there must be something that really worries him, otherwise it will not be very interesting for me myself.

I feel it, and the audience feels it, because you can't fake it, just simply, in short, the passion, the nerve, the rush, and so on.

How does he do it?

What does he think is funny?

What does he think is funny for people?

This is already his question.

My personal nerve is worried about all this.

Speaker 4

Damn, that's cool.

In this regard, when a comedian usually tells about something, like, I came to MFC and there was some kind of hat and he was joking about it.

It's more likely to be some kind of jokes, that he found some paradox, some form of words, some order of words he successfully chose.

And when you say about personal, my first association was with Anvel Genovian, because when I listen to him, when he talks about his family and laughs,

Well, I feel like this is a joke in which there is a share of jokes and a share of truth.

And because of that, my passion grows a lot.

Of course.

And the taste of all this becomes more contrasting.

It's funny to me.

I mean, I'm just watching and laughing.

It's a very sincere, funny material.

Speaker 2

Because when you're on fire, when you're sparking with it, you can't take your eyes off it.

And when you're a flying arrow, like, I'm going to take it out through this stand-up.

We look at it.

Besides, I also really like Sambella's work.

But I think that some people don't like it very much.

Again, he sees flaws in something, and so on.

And it's just the law.

Sambella doesn't give a damn about it, that's the most important thing.

He has to do what he wants to do.

This is the most important thing.

Which is not easy in stand-up.

Because you perform for people, you can't go to them if you expect something.

You have to find this balance.

Reality check.

And no one said that this is easy work.

In fact, stand-up has its own difficulties.

Speaker 4

Yes.

Speaker 2

And risks.

Speaker 4

Irisky, good candy.

Someone wrote here, I will go and turn on the first channel, I will not turn it off until it comes out.

Let's get married, I'll tell you now, they just wrote to me about when it will come out, in my opinion, on the 19th, yes, on the 19th of June it will come out.

Speaker 2

Well, let's get together at the TV screens, dear friends.

Speaker 4

I'll see.

But I don't know, by the way, I told you that ... Congratulations on the broadcast, by the way.

Thank you.

I told you that I was planning to have fun, but the thing is that when you go to the gym, you don't really have fun there, because everything is very scripted there, everything is very according to the scenario.

Plus, I'm not even a groom, but a friend of the groom, I sit there more and throw more than necessary.

And I had fun there in the groom's room, but I don't know what will remain of it.

As for GAR, it was cool, I watched it.

As Seryoga Degtyarev said, you shouldn't interfere with your life sometimes.

Because I often have something new, and I'm like, no, probably not.

And then I think more and more, why not?

Speaker 2

And this is very important, you need to face the unknown.

Yes.

That's why you manifest yourself, you recognize yourself.

Speaker 4

In general, for me personally, when something new happens, not routine, my brain is very pleased.

That is, you have some new map opening, you entered this dark zone, new circumstances, new people, so interesting, I live life immediately.

How do you have fun at all?

Speaker 2

What is entertainment for you today?

Speaker 4

It's a difficult question because there's one more bitch I can't handle.

Well, I'm not trying to handle it yet, I don't know.

I'm spending a lot of time on video games and I realize that it's too much.

I want to be more in reality.

For me, for example, you said you're having fun or you're having a rest?

I'm having fun.

Probably the biggest entertainment for me is communicating with some cool people, because I feel like I'm being charged.

I'm a phone that's being charged.

I'm like, yes, yes, my head is working, I'm learning new information, sometimes generating new information.

This is a cool entertainment.

Speaker 2

It's an exciting thing, I agree.

It's one of the most exciting things that happens.

Speaker 4

But unfortunately for me so far...

I even reflected on the fact that I probably...

There is such a take that many comedians started doing stand-up for the sake of female attention, so that they would start giving them.

I have a feeling that... Not a feeling, but rather, I said it for myself, that

I started doing stand-up, because in my life I always clung to people with some kind of extraordinary thinking, with cool brains.

At some point, besides the fact that I like stand-up, I also thought that if you become more popular and successful,

You get into these circles more often, where the concentration of such brains is higher.

You meet such people more often, after concerts you hang out together, talk in the evening.

That is, this is one of the great motivations, because of which I started doing stand-up.

Thanks to this, having achieved success here, I just understand that if you yourself are an interesting enough person, it is not necessary for you to become successful and popular, so that you are accepted into some circles.

That is, if you are already an interesting brain, you will be found.

Interesting brains, as a rule, magnetize each other, they are interested in communicating with each other.

This is my observation.

I just thought that this is such an auxiliary effect.

Often some barrier is thrown away, and the person is like, oh, I know him, he did this and that, it's a cool thing, you can chat with him, and now you are chatting.

Therefore, yes, this is a cool entertainment.

Speaker 2

And how do you have fun?

I also have a problem with one video game.

I abuse it.

But it happens that every day I play at least one game.

It's an old strategy.

Cossacks, war again.

Holy shit.

I'm a gourmand.

Really, I'm not interested in other games.

This and FIFA.

I mean, I can...

It takes me an hour and a half to finish this game.

It's a lot for me, like an hour and a half a day.

Speaker 4

I have flashbacks, I remember that I played it once and I really liked it, but I have a feeling that I played it in another life.

Speaker 2

It's been so long that I have a feeling that I played it in another life.

Well, a little bit.

This nostalgic effect, of course, is present, because I only play this old one, I'm not interested in the other one.

But I think I'm having fun in creativity when I try something new that I haven't tried yet.

I have an inner belief that you can try creativity.

What a thrill.

No matter what it sounds like.

I'm singing now.

Really?

That's awesome.

It turned out to be the most interesting game ever.

You know, when you have to get into a gap like this.

You have to jump and get into these gaps.

It's a bit similar because you have to hit the notes in your head.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, this is where you need to take it higher so that you can lift it.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, where it is half a millimeter and so on.

In short, such attention is needed.

And it turned out to be very exciting.

Speaker 4

You know what else I'm thinking about?

I myself, until you said this, there are a lot of things that you perceive as... As cringeworthy.

Not exactly as cringeworthy, as something like this, like singing, but it's when you're like this, and that's it, and that's all your analysis.

There's always science there, yes.

Yes, yes, when you understand that this is a whole science, and you start to get into this science, that this is actually such a mechanism, that is, Alana and I started swimming in the pool.

And I knew how to swim the way I learned.

I thought I knew how to swim.

Speaker 2

I thought I knew how to swim.

Speaker 4

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

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I thought I knew how to swim.

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I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how to swim.

I thought I knew how

I stop being able to do it.

And this guy who trains us, he often says that the problem of all people who are no longer children, he also trains children.

The problem is not children, it's that they think a lot.

I tell him that this arm is like this, this arm is like this, shoulders are like this, legs are like this.

And because he tries to think about all this, he just sinks.

And sometimes you just start doing it, and along the way you need to correct something.

Speaker 2

You need to play, actually.

The thing is that you need to learn to play, and then it turns out a little bit.

Speaker 4

It's really easier for children.

I thought about it now, I also looked through this sign of singing, that this is also a whole science.

Speaker 2

Oh, yes, there is anatomy, of course, biology.

This is very useful.

This is useful psychologically, because singing is a scream that can be regulated.

Yes.

And you will scream for this hour of practice, for example.

You feel better.

Speaker 4

Cool, this is a splash of emotion.

Speaker 2

Yes, of course.

Plus, recently I heard that it somehow stimulates the delusional nerve, so-called.

I heard about it.

I heard it, but I don't remember what it's responsible for.

To be honest, it seems to me that it was invented two years ago.

Some kind of nerve is dancing around you.

Well, in general, it's a kind of nerve that goes through the whole body, and it wanders there.

And in general, if you stimulate it, then apparently the tone increases somehow, the brain activity is stimulated, and so on.

And so I heard that singing has a positive effect, but you really feel very good after that.

Speaker 4

I got into it today.

You know, when you watch a video, the guy explains something and you start repeating what he says.

The guy talks about Bob Marley.

That's how he sings.

And he mechanically began to analyze it.

And he says that this is a scream.

And he explained it very cool.

He said, try to scream as if you were calling someone.

Like, hey!

And if you scream as you should, then your voice will be here, in this nostril.

Because if you scream with your throat, like, hey!

Then you have a sound here, and you need to make it so that you have a sound like, hey, on high, he sings everything here.

Speaker 2

And I'm like, no way, these are some levels.

There are levels, yes, there are terminologies and so on.

Singing has been around for a long time, longer than stand-up.

We have already figured it out in it, in short, quite strongly.

We have come a long way as a humanity in understanding how to sing.

Yes, in general, there is really a non-trivial theme, that's all.

And then, when you learn something, you perceive what has already been created in a different way.

Now, when I go and listen to those whom I listen to, I listen to all sorts of Utesovs, Magomayevs, and, understanding already a little bit what is happening inside them anatomically, it really becomes more exciting.

Speaker 4

For example, this.

What a thrill.

You know, Alan infected me with one thing that she said, and my brain was like, I like it too.

At some point I told Alan about some things, like I could tell him about basketball, about CS.

And I liked it so much that I could tell him a lot of things and then say, why am I telling you this, you don't give a shit.

And Alan was like,

When a person talks about something very passionately, I am fascinated by it myself.

Speaker 2

Of course, this is the only law.

We, as people who are related to the show industry, must know this law clearly and not deceive ourselves.

Speaker 4

Because it's easy to pretend that you are passionate about it.

Speaker 2

Or, you know, to deceive yourself that it is exciting for you and stick to some story and do what you really don't like.

And it will probably turn out bad.

Speaker 4

Yes, that's why when something...

Speaker 2

There is a lot of power in passion, of course.

Yes, and that's why you need to scan what attracts you, notice, try accordingly.

Well, that's why, in short, entertainment in creativity, because singing, writing poems, writing just texts, different types of sports, it's all a different game that unfolds in your head.

Sometimes you just want to play a specific game.

Yes.

Speaker 4

Damn, it's exciting, you can't say otherwise.

Speaker 5

Alan, did you have any more donations?

Speaker 4

Yes, I'm going to read one now.

I think they're being greedy today.

That's right, yes.

They're probably setting up for the last one before Monday.

It seems that the endless interruptions have begun.

Speaker 5

Anonymous 100 rubles to all Salam and Gamarjoba.

Thomas, what do you think about the fact that you have turned into a medium quality with the transition to VK?

Namely, one-of-a-kind stupid shows that are taped every day.

Will you like it if you have a show with medium quality?

Speaker 2

I don't know, maybe it will be.

It's not quite clear yet.

I hope that we will do something in some form.

As for my attitude, I won't say that I'm a big fan of entertainment content.

I don't watch a lot of entertainment content.

I like it when something surprising appears, something that pleases the heart, like Ilya Kuruch's show.

Am I right?

Yes.

I watch such boring, boring movies.

Are you talking about humorous ones?

Speaker 5

Yes, humorous ones.

Speaker 2

To be honest, often educational formats are entertainment.

For example, I don't perceive historical content as an intellectual effort.

It's entertainment, you listen to some cool stories.

The same goes for научпоп.

It's a story about the world we live in.

In fact, it's more entertaining than straining.

Speaker 4

Yes, I agree with you.

I watched the last kujji, where they were talking about...

There was a story...

Mel Gibson visited Joe Rogan and told him that he had four friends who had cancer of the fourth stage and all four of them recovered.

And Joe Rogan was like, wow, and what did they take?

And Mel Gibson says, you know what they took.

And Joe Rogan says, oh, this, this.

And he says, yes, and this is a very cheap drug against parasites.

There is a conspiracy theory that Big Pharma does not allow this thing to develop, but in fact this medicine helps even at the hard stage of cancer.

This is a small rils that is very viral.

Let me make it a little more beautiful.

Alexey Vadovozov came to visit.

And they are, in fact, a person who understands this business.

Scientific journalist, military doctor Alexey Vadovozov.

And they talk about this thing and you learn a lot of new things.

It's not about disclosure, it's just a more detailed analysis of what's been said.

And what's the result?

It's hard to say if it's true or not.

But it can't be said that it's not true.

As a result, the fact is that this is a very effective drug against parasites.

that really helps.

If you have any parasites in a person, the uniqueness of this drug is that it eradicates parasites without causing harm to a person's health.

And this is rare with drugs.

This is a successful coincidence, because drugs usually kill both bacteria and a little more on the body.

And they discuss that one of the theories is that cancer also appears because of parasites.

And through this prism, if you look at this medicine, maybe there really are some such fictitious properties.

If we dry up this topic a little, the point is that we still need to study this medicine.

They say that you first conduct tests on cells, then on organelles, then on small animals, and it is gradually increasing, and only at the end you test it on a person, and this medicine from testing on a person is still very, very far away.

Speaker 2

There is an extreme path itself, right?

Speaker 4

They discuss this whole thing and about the phenomenon that a person, as a rule,

The danger is that Mel Gibson talks about it from the screen, and then the person goes to the pharmacy and buys it.

And then they talk about the phenomenon that people often, for some reason, use a lot of some kind of medicine.

That is, a person thinks that here is a medicine, here is the norm that needs to be adopted.

Well, if you drink twice as much, you will be treated twice as quickly.

Yes, yes.

And this often hurts him a lot.

And they talk about all this.

The essence of this whole tirade is that I listen to it all, it's all very informative, but for me it's also so entertaining.

For me it's entertainment.

First of all, it's super useful information, I get to know a lot of new things, but it also entertains me so much, it's so fun for me.

Speaker 2

Well, it's fun for me too.

There's a lot of history, philosophy, you could even say.

That's what I love.

All sorts of lectures, interviews, old television.

I often watch it, it's going to fly now, I must say.

I haven't watched entertainment shows for a long time.

I, as a professional, am a little obliged, probably, a kind of professional, to follow what people are watching.

And I'm more about this position.

I'm interested in watching the media, I've been watching the media all my life.

But I'm not ready to give such a kind of evaluation here.

And again, as I said at the beginning, it's a matter of taste, whether someone likes it or not.

Speaker 4

I have a question for you.

You associate yourself with such a wonderful thing, which, unfortunately, ended up as an outside stand-up.

Why?

Do they come out there?

Well, how do they come out?

They come out with top comedians.

That is, in your time it was regular and for comedians of all scales.

Speaker 2

Well, not quite, there was still a selection and, to be honest, I regretted some concerts when the comic was not ready yet.

The thing is not so much, I think, in the media of the comics, but in the fact that... Well, for sure it's a small percentage of such concerts.

Well, don't say that.

To be honest, looking back, I was happy with four or five of them.

I was like, yeah, we didn't do it for nothing.

Speaker 4

Listen, you can correct me, but I think you're talking about legendary concerts.

Well, not necessarily, but in my understanding, despite the fact that I, to be honest, quite like to twirl my nose, that is, a rather snobby consumer of stand-up, I had it in my head that outside stand-up is a bar.

Of course, as a sane person, I'm like, of course, there will be a stand-up that will either not get into me, or in general, in general opinion, it will be considered that this one was put out in vain, this one is weak, but this is within the limits of error, because the regularity there was still quite high, it often came out, and this, of course, if your regularity is high,

There will be more successful, there will be less successful episodes.

Speaker 2

Well, yes.

Moreover, there was a slightly different goal.

The goal was not so much to make comics cool and so on.

It was already on their shoulders and on their responsibility.

My goal was to help create such an environment so that its authenticity was revealed as much as possible.

And everything was subject to this, again, the decorations, the filming, the approach.

Speaker 4

How was it all?

It's just a black hole for comedians.

That is, it seems to me, what else is the pizdatost of this platform and why am I sad that there is no such platform now?

when the comedians know that there is such a platform, then you know where you are going, you know what you are preparing for, because when you are now, the times are like in Proruba, the comedians are chatting, and they are like, what are you going to do?

I don't know, maybe I'll record myself on the channel, maybe I'll record myself on TNT, maybe, okay, then just through a comma outside, maybe, yes, no, well, outside still became a platform where, that's exactly thanks to the fact that there and

such legends as Alexander Lurye recorded his concerts, but Vladislav Ilchenko could also record a concert there, for example.

Well, not because he is a bad comedian, but because he is not a media comedian at that time.

And you can record there.

And you, being a beginner comedian, you have X5 motivation.

Because if I can make a cool, high-quality concert now and I can pitch it, defend it, then I will be able to sell it on a cool platform and I will definitely get a lot of views, because people have already sat down.

Speaker 2

We have a micro Netflix.

I think that this goal should not die, because there are concerts, and again, the recognition of the comedians is different.

Those who come out, the last 5-10 concerts, I look at them, of course, different views.

Speaker 4

There, in my opinion, just according to my feelings, I haven't been to Proidea Estirade for a long time, according to my feelings, at the same time they began to publish

4 minutes of open mics.

Speaker 2

There was such a period, yes.

Speaker 4

And now there is no, I haven't been for a long time, now we have 5 concerts.

Speaker 2

Yes, concerts, well, you see, in short, there are guys from Medina, there are still not so many.

Well, by the way, yes.

Speaker 4

So I think as a platform ... 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, well, yes, for the last 7 months, 7 concerts.

Well, once a month.

It's okay, by the way.

Well, yes, probably if they came out a little more often,

Speaker 2

Maybe, yes.

But I think that if you have such an intention, you can strive for this platform.

I just don't know what it looks like now.

Speaker 4

I mean, how exactly you end up in this YouTube channel.

Well, in the list of justice for the sake of, well, in quotes, summarizing, TNT comedians are mostly the last ones now.

That is, there are not many of them.

By the way, in general... Artur Shamgunov, not TNT.

Well, although he was in TNT, but...

Well, he doesn't live there right now, he doesn't live in the Comedy Club office.

Speaker 2

Well, in general, you can just follow this channel, how it has changed.

But at that time it was true.

I was at the beginning of this channel, I was there for a long time, in 2021 I stopped doing it.

My favorite sketch.

Speaker 4

which I later found out that you came up with.

With Lvo Marcello.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes.

Speaker 4

I liked him so much, and then I'm here on the podcast, I respect Lvo like this, respect him, and he says, and this is what Thomas brought me.

Speaker 2

Well, yes, we were sitting in a cafe with him at Patriarchs, I remember, I remember.

Speaker 4

In general, I remember, I looked, I thought, how stylish, how everything under the name of the concert, how it lay down in general, beautiful.

Speaker 2

Well, it was really exciting for us to come up with all these sketches.

It was a good time.

Yes.

Speaker 4

Well, let's hope that this site will continue somehow.

But it seems to me that it is still important who is behind this.

I'm not aware, unfortunately.

Well, yes, I say that it is probably important that there is some kind of

There was a very interested person who was like, I'm going to do this, I'm going to watch comics, it's all work, that is, to be a person.

By the way, I'm very glad that I don't do this job anymore, to be honest.

From all the people who watched comics for some time, I then heard the phrase that I never want to watch comics again, to be with people.

To be honest, the most unpleasant thing is, without a doubt... Because every comic, yes, refers to his work as brilliant.

Speaker 2

Well, it can have a big impact, because he understands it in life, and I understand it.

And it's unpleasant, of course, to be in this position with someone.

Speaker 4

Yes.

I saw the broadcast only now and how I caught the falling jaw from the image of Thomas.

Speaker 2

Well, that's how I usually dress in life, there's nothing to be surprised about.

Speaker 4

Default.

Casual look.

And the fact that you just saw it now is due to the fact that our channel is in such a slump, and to help get out of it, press the likes under this broadcast, thumbs up, you only need one click, we are pleased.

Speaker 2

It is very important to press the likes, in fact, comrades.

Yes.

People underestimate, in fact, how they can influence the media, the picture.

The algorithm not only directs, but also reacts.

Speaker 4

Yes, by the way, this is an important point.

Of course.

This is an important point.

You probably all participated in these conversations that I have recommended reels in Insta, they are made for me, and they give me what I am interested in.

Speaker 2

Of course, I trained my algorithm.

Only lesgings are shown to me, Caucasian dances, and only Caucasian dances.

Speaker 4

Yes, that's why the rules of the platform are the same.

Well, thank you, I already see, right now the score went up, likes.

Speaker 2

This is serious, because guys, don't turn it off, don't turn it off, it's a common thing.

Speaker 4

And in the description, not in the description, in the chat, in the backups, there is a link to the YouTube channel.

Yes, we check the effectiveness of David's platform.

So, yes, don't let me down, let's, I don't know, at least 100 people should subscribe, please subscribe, I'm such a modest plan, 100 people, please follow the link, it is fixed in the chat, in the description, if you look at the recording, then in the description there is already a correct link, go through, subscribe, it will come out there.

Speaker 2

And did you say when it will come out?

This week, I hope.

I actually wanted to do it tomorrow, next week.

I hope that we will be able to finish all these roughnesses on a day-to-day basis.

I just want to say right away that the project will improve, because again, it's always so iterative, something worked out, something didn't work out.

The idea has not been fully revealed yet, I think it takes time, but I am sure that we will actually go on an exciting journey together.

And the person who will watch all these episodes, participate in the interactive, I think he will really be able to get to his own grandeur too.

It seems to me that this is the fastest way, faced with other examples.

Speaker 4

This is one hundred percent.

How much of my life do I live, I am convinced that I played basketball.

I liked it very much.

And at first we were losing inter-regional basketball competitions in Ossetia.

And that's why we started winning them.

In those days, the Internet was weak.

We had a polygraph, do you remember what it was called?

When you went on the Internet, you got some kind of number, then some kind of... And it took a couple of minutes, and you connected to the Internet, and you had a speed of like 64...

Kilobits per second, yes.

And I remember that I went to slamdunk.ru in 2000

In 2006 I was downloading a video from there that weighed 300 MB I was downloading it for about 12 hours On my Nokia N73 I was coming to practice, the guys around me were getting up and we were watching videos of someone doing something Some basketball moves, we were studying them, then we went to the court and repeated them

I had the same thing with video games, I'm a freak in the sense that I play CS and I reached this soul level where you are already fighting with the same souls and in order to surpass them, you just watch some guides I do not regret it, it brings me pleasure, so for this time I highlight how

Pro player shows that this is how you have to do this movement, this is how you have to throw a grenade, this is how you have to ... That is, there are some little things.

You look for cool guys and take something, and from this you become better yourself.

I say all this because in this show you will surely see how grandiose people do some things, some techniques, what they use, how they think, yes.

Speaker 2

An internal device of extraordinaryness, I briefly formulate it this way.

And looking at this...

Yes, you will get to your own, I hope.

But I'm sure that a future grandiose person will watch this show.

He just doesn't know yet, but in the process he will open up and do something extraordinary.

Speaker 4

It affects a lot, it affects a lot.

On my move to Moscow, I still remember how it affected the fact that I was sitting in the administration in Vladikavkaz and for some reason

YouTube in 2012 or 2013, for some reason, gave me the second episode of Millionaire from the Closet with Timur Dzhankezov.

And this is my first touch.

And at that time I didn't even know that he was doing stand-up.

I just turned it on.

A guy that I feel is related to this guy.

And this guy is also from the Caucasus.

He moved to Moscow and he's trying to understand something.

He's trying to earn his first million.

Yes, he's earning his first million.

And I watched it all.

Timur Adjankyozov's show influenced me, including thanks to this show.

I quit my job and moved to Vladikavkaz.

And now I'm satisfied with my life much more than before.

So such things definitely influence and definitely help.

Speaker 2

Yes, but there is also a downside.

In our show Code of Grandeur, I remind you that we do not know about those who did not succeed.

Speaker 4

It is important to keep in mind.

What a sad video I recently saw, where a girl stands and says,

And I asked her, what's your message for the people watching us?

And she said, just because you don't give up doesn't mean you will get it.

And I was like, fuck, how sad it is.

Only the fact that you don't give up doesn't mean that you will get what you want.

I was like, how sad it is.

Speaker 2

But if you give up, you definitely won't get it.

Speaker 4

It's a fact, it's another one.

These expressions are beautiful, of course, they really like the brain.

I remember this expression, that buying a lottery ticket, the chance to win is very small.

But if you don't buy a lottery ticket, the chance is zero.

Well, literally, there is a kind of analogy in your head, that this is not about the lottery, but about your attempts.

About your life.

Well, luck loves the brave.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 4

So, we've talked about what.

I also wanted to read the stand-up news.

Let me read the donations for now.

Speaker 5

Come on, come on.

I also thought that, unfortunately, because of the fact that we have a podcast behind the table, amazing Thomas pants are missing, because they are in the same style, I look at them.

Speaker 2

By the way, I will only be happy with David's pants today.

Sorry.

Thank you, thank you.

The suit, yes, this is a set.

Speaker 5

Okay, my turn.

Veprivo Kolen, 100 rubles.

Hello everyone.

Thomas, I found new friends on Instagram.

Question about your stories.

Thank you very much.

Speaker 2

Yeah, damn.

I posted on Instagram that I'm looking for new friends.

Listen, a dude I'm subscribed to, a cool artist, replied to me.

They promised to cross paths, so at least not in vain.

You know, there were actually a lot of reactions about the fact that, wow, it turns out that you can look for friends, you can write on Instagram.

And people are actually lonely and don't know how to look for friends, it's so sad.

Because it's not clear how to look for friends, especially when you're an adult.

That's why you really need to bring things to mind, arrange a general meeting and make friends with everyone.

Speaker 4

By the way, this is really a fact.

I, as a person whose profession is to have a lot of acquaintances, even at the same time I see how difficult it is for people to get acquainted.

Someone is prevented by circumstances, someone is prevented by his inner beliefs.

At the same time, people want, as it were,

new contacts, exchange of information, some kind of energy.

Well, different people stop different circumstances.

It would be cool, of course, too.

Speaker 2

Of course.

I've been giving it for years, really, but it's more difficult for some reason.

You can't get so deep.

Of course, you can try to discuss it, about how difficult it is to be friends as you grow up.

Speaker 4

Yes, it's true.

You just said it, I remembered it, I immediately had flashbacks.

I recently performed with Yana Zubkov and Zhenya Konyakov, we performed on the same record.

We chatted a bit, and when we went back, I thought about it at home.

At that moment, I just answered.

Yan Zubkov asked me, we went to my place to play FIFA.

Do you play FIFA?

Oh, he started with that.

Oh, David, do you play FIFA?

I say, no, not really.

He says, we're going to my place to play FIFA.

I say, no, I only play Dota.

And I went home.

And then I wash my hands at home and say,

It was an invitation to a network of communication.

A social glue of FIFA, of course.

And I was like, no, no, I don't play.

And I went home, just to play in a room.

And sometimes you don't even pay attention to such things and just let it go.

Because I have my own script, I work according to my own script, sometimes you have to get out of this script.

Speaker 2

Well, it's not easy to get out of your scripts.

Speaker 4

You have to notice that you are in them.

Speaker 2

Well, I don't know, to be honest, I still easily get friends.

I just at some point consciously decided that I needed fewer friends.

I heard one line from the song, damn, something got into my head.

I have no friends so that no one can shoot down my sight.

Because, let's face it, the environment has a huge influence on how you think, what you think, and so on.

In short, I brought up the independence of judgment in myself.

Speaker 4

Well, here, of course, you can say that your friends can still calibrate you.

Yes.

If you have friends whose values are close to you, then you will only have such a calibration on your hand.

This calibrator suits me in every way.

Speaker 2

It happens, in fact.

Of course, you calibrate your friends.

You can just recalibrate very much.

Moreover, when you have different friends and you are against yourself, it is not easy.

But I decided that at this stage you need to try at all.

In short, do not let anyone into your consciousness.

Speaker 1

Now I dress like this.

Speaker 2

I feel amazing, I must say.

Speaker 4

By the way, I also understand that you really need social glue in the end.

I feel that without this social glue, how can I communicate with a person?

In the sense that I communicate with people for some reason, that is, with someone

I play together in some video games, with someone we do the same thing, we cross paths on the playgrounds, with someone we cross paths in some other conditions, but something happens everywhere.

That is, I have no such unconditional communication with anyone except with Alana.

And maybe we are only united by the fact that we live in the same house.

Thank you.

This is our conscious choice.

But I'm talking about the fact that there are people with whom I would like to spend more time.

For example, there is an amazing guy, a psychotherapist Sergey Degtyarev.

He lives in the IKB.

Another time zone.

And I have a lot of fun talking to him every time.

But as a rule, social media helps us in the form of Dota.

If we want to play Dota together, we can chat.

And that's how I sometimes imagine myself in my head that I would...

I'm not just talking about him, there are a number of people with whom I would be happy to communicate more often.

But when in my 34-year-old head there is a thought that... Let's imagine that there is no social... Not because of something, but I'm just writing to a person

What do I write to him?

I literally have something stupid in my head.

I want to talk to Thomas and I write to him, hello, how are you?

What are you doing?

And I still have something in my head, maybe it's a minus of my brain, but I will have something like, well, why are you writing?

Do you want something?

What are you?

Although when you are sitting in a bar with someone, chatting, you can talk about anything and

All topics for you become a social glue.

But you see, here you are just sitting next to each other, and circumstances force you to talk to each other.

And if you don't sit next to each other, then this thing also presses on you, that I am not too obsessive, maybe he is busy, now I will write to him, and then I will sit.

And this is in my case,

One of the big hidden fears is that if I feel a note that I am complicating a person a little bit, I immediately say that I'm done, I'm done with my business, I don't write, I don't answer, let the person live his life.

That is, for some reason it is so unpleasant for me to feel like a person who makes it difficult for someone, because when someone makes it difficult for me, it irritates me a lot.

I'm like, how I don't want to be the type who is imposed and depends on his dialogues.

And all these structures, they interfere a lot.

Speaker 2

Well, yes, it turns out that you have it in your head all your life.

Yes, yes.

I don't know, I think, of course, you need to play more and bother less, but this helps, after all, this desire to hold on to the independence of thought, in short, I don't care who thinks what, so I write to you, David, let's be friends, damn it, and that's it, I just honestly say

Speaker 4

It's really strong, actually.

I mean, maybe someone will hear it and say, what a freak, but you need balls to write it like that.

Ice cream.

I mean, you don't give a damn what society thinks.

Speaker 2

I don't give a damn what you think, because otherwise I'll be offended by you, I don't know, I don't like you very much.

That's why I should initially be like that.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, you need to have a soul to be like that.

I need to relax and move around the edges of the trees.

Speaker 2

Recently, you asked me about the principle in which friends are selected.

I understood that friends are selected when I see something in someone that I lack in myself.

Yes.

That is, some features that I admire in this period of my life.

And this is very important, and you want to reach out to this person.

Yes, yes.

She asked how to make friends with you and I said to have the traits that I want now.

Speaker 4

I remember a dialogue in my life when I also decided that

In my head, in my imagination, when I meet an interesting person, I get into him, I take what I am interested in, but at the same time, if he is interested in something, I give it to him too.

And we have such an exchange.

I gave him what he was interested in, he gave me what I was interested in.

And we can move even further.

That is, such a symbiosis occurs.

Alana, do you have a word?

Speaker 5

Yes, just a second.

Speaker 4

I have a lot of news here.

Speaker 5

Bacteria 2000 rubles against parasites.

Thank you very much for the donation.

Speaker 4

Again.

Bacteria 2000 rubles against parasites.

Thank you very much for 2000 rubles.

Parasites will be exterminated.

Speaker 2

Make money on the podcast Authority of Thought.

Speaker 4

The guys are doing things.

Thank you.

It's nice.

Speaker 5

Vepriva Kalina, 100 rubles, top 3 shows from old TV.

Thank you, bye.

Speaker 2

School of Evil.

I really like this program.

It seems to be so simple and so unusual.

And when you watch people, including those who are still somehow floating, it is still very interesting to compare.

Vremena was a program, Posner, and I forgot the host.

It's also very interesting to watch over that period of time and how people perceived it.

And to choose the third from old television.

Speaker 3

Okla?

Speaker 2

Okla?

By the way, I'm not particularly interested in all these shows.

I'm interested in the ones that are a little bit public.

Speaker 4

What was the name of this show where some celebrity came and a bunch of kids were sitting around this celebrity and asking her questions?

I think that's what it was called, the question to an adult, if I'm not mistaken.

I got it yesterday.

Who was it, Larisa Dolina?

Speaker 5

I don't know, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4

I think it was Dolina.

Speaker 5

Ah, the one who was responsible for fines?

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, yes.

There was a cool illustration of a person's deformed thinking, where she was asked, like, do you break the rules on the road?

She says, I have a driver, I don't drive myself, and I have a strict rule for him to drive only according to the law, only according to the rules.

Of course, if we are late somewhere, then we can break it, but this is only if I am late for the airport or for a performance, and the child, which is cool, you can see that the living brain is not scripted, he says, oh, that is, you don't care about the rules if you are interested.

And she doesn't understand how it sounds from the outside.

She says, I explained, I told him to follow the rules and we break them only when it's something urgent.

Speaker 2

I can't hear how it sounds.

By the way, I don't respect people who can talk like that.

So much.

It was cemented in this bubble.

In general, people who have their own, in short, super separate thinking, this is the most interesting.

Speaker 4

She also stopped talking to her friends.

Speaker 2

The third show is probably Vzglyad, if you remember, such a favorite, Listev, it's also very interesting, it's older than the beginning of the 00s, which I mainly watch, it's still the beginning of the 90s, but it's also a very interesting program, and all these programs today, I think, have overtaken everyone, because the content is very cool.

Speaker 4

Unfortunately, I got exactly to the point where I was a child at first and watched only entertainment content, and when I had a desire to watch something educational, the Internet appeared.

And I was a person who started watching the Internet in protest against TV, and I was already looking for everything interesting on the Internet, so I can't even say anything.

Only some entertainment stuff.

I liked it on Friday.

By the way, it wasn't that long ago.

On Friday, there was a guy, you know, not Heads and Tails, but a guy who also traveled, but on some kind of trash routes.

I don't know.

I mean, there's an episode.

Most likely, people in the comments will understand what I'm talking about.

Some dude just goes to some country, comes to some poor neighborhood, comes to a family that lives there, and eats what they eat, hang out.

It was very interesting.

And I was surprised that he was on TV in Peru in one of the episodes.

And he was like, well, it's customary to drink ayahuasca here, so I'm going to drink ayahuasca now.

Speaker 1

He sits down and drinks ayahuasca.

Speaker 4

And the cameraman is filming how he starts to get scared or something like that.

In the end, he wasn't very shocked, so to say.

And then they were arguing that maybe it's because of the camera, that you have to immerse yourself in these shamans or something else.

I was like, I'm watching a TV show now.

Speaker 2

Horrible, because they were showing drugs.

Speaker 4

We condemn everything.

I don't know, by the way, is ayahuasca prohibited in the territory of Russia, but just in case.

Speaker 2

It is prohibited, but in fact it can lead to very tragic consequences.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes.

Well, these...

Psychedelics, or whatever you want to call them.

I don't know what category of substance they belong to, but... And playing, of course.

I want to read what I... Svetlana.

Svetlana Valerievna G. Thank you very much for the donation that you sent, but I don't have the text.

If you were planning to send some text, then write it directly in the chat of YouTube for free, and I will read it.

Write in brackets like this.

I am Svetlana.

Потому что там просто... Я без очереди.

Да, без очереди.

У нас как бы, да.

Легализованная коррупция.

Этот видос ты не видел, где чувак чернокожий?

Corruption is bad only if I'm not involved.

But if I'm involved, I'm gonna defend it.

Speaker 2

Вот таких я уважаю.

Speaker 4

Да, да.

Это человек, который вижу цель

I don't see any obstacles.

I don't see any contradictions.

I don't see any contradictions.

If I'm involved, I'm gonna defend it.

So, Vasily Kot, I'm Svetlana, I got your joke, you're all Svetlana now.

I'm Svetlana, I didn't want to write anything, just thank you for the content.

Thank you very much, Svetlana, I believe it's you.

Speaker 5

Thank you for the donation.

Chipsik, did you fall asleep?

Yes, he came to complain, as usual.

He wants to be stroked.

Speaker 4

Chipsik complains that he is not stroked.

Sit here, I'll stroke you.

When will you call?

I'm interested in the first part.

Do you have a tip with a sad question?

What was the story?

Speaker 2

He said it was unpleasant.

I remember that some dude wrote in advance and apologized for the fact that the question was unpleasant, but I already forgot what it was about.

And I think I answered him in detail, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4

Ah, you published the stories of his questions and answered?

Speaker 2

No, no, no, no, no.

He asked me like that.

He wanted, I think, without publishing, there are questions there, but I won't find them now and won't remember.

Unfortunately, I don't even remember what it was about.

Speaker 4

Is it the same person?

How did he find out about this question?

Speaker 2

So he wrote it, I sent it.

Ah, that is, the same person who sent it donated it.

Yes, yes, no, I remembered it all, it was about, in short, the ethno-political tensions in the South Caucasus.

Wow.

Yes.

It was about this, but I don't remember what the question was about.

It's our Marashik.

A very beautiful cat.

Yes, his sweater is like that.

You can hear him talking about it, see?

Humble.

Speaker 4

Yes.

BNG TV.

Honestly, I want to cheer up the channel again, so that there are more views.

Because the guys have quality content, they collect a lot.

These are guys who make Russian-language videos about UFC.

They are the best guys who make content about UFC.

Speaker 5

So maybe they will raise your views.

Speaker 4

Maybe they will, but my goal is not to hype someone, but they are just cool guys and I would like to invite them in favorable conditions and talk to them like that.

They were just told about my channel, they watched it live and were like, we'll have a great time, dude.

If you like it, you should invite them.

Yes, I will definitely invite them.

By the way, on the new week, on Thursday, there will be a new episode of GN.

By the way, you said that the first episode will be released and the project will, of course, develop, which also affected us in the first episode.

There was this glitch with sound, we put it out.

Well, it happened.

There was such a story that we didn't have, by the way.

Yes, hyenas came out last week, so I can comment online.

Production and the site, a little miscommunication occurred, they didn't understand the sound.

As a result, it turned out on the site on the day of filming that it was not clear what to do with the sound.

The show started an hour later, and the sound, the one on the air, so that you understand, it's like a recorder in the center of the hall was set, and then someone else's voices were pulled out by neural networks.

And how did it happen?

If you want to watch it, you will watch it and you won't even have a hard time listening to it.

But the problem is that the show is developing, there are always people in my head.

There are people who will definitely watch it, who will definitely not watch it.

And there is a large number of people who are doubtful.

Maybe you will be interested in them, maybe you will not.

The show grows when you catch the doubters.

It's hard to catch them when you have a shitty sound, and it was clearly shitty, because when it was sent, I turned it on myself, and the first thing I wrote to production, I said, have you not processed the sound yet?

And they explained to me that this is already a processed sound.

Unfortunately, in the first release it was like this, in the second we already heard it, and then the sound will be good, we will develop both technically and compositionally, so next week there will be a new drop, at the end of the month there will be the next filming.

I will not announce it yet, because there is still a month before them, I will drop it a little later.

By the way, if you want, let me then take advantage of this.

Next Tuesday at 6 a.m. we will shoot an intro for the three hyenas on the street.

At 6 a.m. so that there are no people.

And we need people who will shoot.

We have already found a person there, 10.

And we probably need 5 more people just in case.

So if you respond and we call you, you will shoot with us in the intro anyway.

If you want to participate in this thing, I have a post in the Telegram channel where you put a plus in the comments and people from production will contact you and say when, what to wear, where to come.

So come, we will shoot at 6 in the morning in the waking Moscow intro.

Speaker 2

Interesting.

Speaker 4

Good luck.

Thank you, thank you.

Yes, Alana.

Speaker 5

Yes.

Simulantka 200 rubles.

Hello everyone, thank you for a wonderful guest, the sound today caresses the ear.

And since you are in such bright images, I suggest associating several comedians with characters from cartoons or movies.

Thank you.

Thank you for the donation.

Speaker 4

Oh, there won't be a list of comedians?

No.

It's hard, we have to come up with a comedian ourselves.

Let's do three comedians, and then you'll be a character from a movie or a cartoon.

I'll do you, you'll do me.

Let's do it.

Rasul Chebdarov.

Who would you compare him to?

What kind of character?

Speaker 2

Damn, how can you compare him to anyone?

Speaker 4

What is there to talk about?

Do you know who I would compare him to?

He is very similar to Alexandre Blurier.

Well, something...

Speaker 2

There are some features that cross the line, right?

A little bit.

Maybe there is something in his appearance that is barely noticeable.

Well, yes, a little bit.

Similar features.

And so, of course, he is incomparable.

Yes.

Okay, then I'm Lev Marcel.

Speaker 4

Lev Marcel.

It's not called that anymore.

You know, I don't know, Lev, you can correct me, I'll tell you in the next podcast, but I heard that he became Levon Musailan, and then I heard that he became Levon Musailan again.

Okay.

I heard that he became Levon Musailan again.

I made a reverse transition.

Yes.

Good boy.

But it's from someone else's words, broken radio, so Lev, if it's Levon, if it's not so, you can tell me in the next podcast.

Do you know who I really have with?

I don't understand how to pronounce Winnie the Pooh in American, and there was a tiger.

Speaker 2

Here it is, a little bit square.

Okay, interesting.

Speaker 4

Like Leo Marcello.

Speaker 2

Damn, my associative doesn't work that way.

Let's try again.

Come on.

Speaker 4

Now I want something sudden.

Bella from female stand-up.

Damn, I don't know, unfortunately.

Oh, you don't know, okay.

Speaker 2

I only know those who were in the attack 5 years ago, damn, I lost it all, to be honest.

Speaker 4

Radars don't work.

Come on, let's do it like this, Idrak Mirzalizade.

Speaker 2

Maybe this Seed from the long period, it reminds me of something.

Speaker 4

Yes, by the way, I just thought about it, I imagined it in my head, that there is something in it.

Speaker 2

Something, in short, a little, something that is also barely noticeable.

Yes.

Speaker 4

Like Ulria with Rasul.

Yes, yes, yes.

This is purely at the energy level, such a connection.

Okay, while Alana is leaving, I'll read the news about stand-up.

I read them, if anything, according to our preliminary agreement from the public about stand-up.

The link to this public is in the description, so go through it.

Dima Ishchenko, the comedian, is leading it.

Hi, Dima, thank you for the content and for allowing you to share additional news on the air.

Two interesting interviews came out recently.

Guram Amaryan went to the channel Vpiska and Andrey Aeropetov went to the channel Gavryaschiye Golovy.

Everything is on YouTube, some incredible insiders there, I did not see it from the author and did not hear it, but I advise fans to watch it.

By the way, I watched Guram on Vpiska.

It was entertaining, but still, when it's connected to stand-up, it can be interesting to listen to.

I haven't seen Andrey in talking heads yet.

But Guram is already a celebrity.

Cool.

Cool, of course.

I remember how we were sitting with Guram and Orlov.

I'll call you back in the open mic in the city of China.

And now Sergey is somewhere in Illinois, in Chicago, performing with concerts.

Guram, Seleba.

Well done, guys.

Speaker 2

Well done, yes, cool, cool.

Good, talented.

Speaker 4

The VK Fest is over.

There were 1300-something comedians.

The number of comedians is impressive.

There were 72 in the projects, as with Punchline.

As with Punchline, you can write detailed reviews in person, and then Dima publishes reviews about the Fest in this community.

That is, this is purely an internal topic, the comedians are sharing.

It is published and discussed.

Nurlan Saburov was detained at the Sheremetyevo airport.

After a while, he was released, fined for violating the terms of residence in the Russian Federation.

It happens.

Well, actually, there is nothing to add.

It happens.

Well, it seems that they figured it out, there seems to be nothing like that.

There, of course, journalists, this is also, I watched some excerpts, where this journalist, who climbs with a phone like this, and Nurlan, by the way, well, I don't know if you saw it or not, he just keeps calm there, answers calmly, answered a few questions, then, when the journalist, you can already see that his questions are over, he starts some kind of madness from his fingertips, Nurlan says, thank you, I'll probably go now.

He just leaves and this one still puts something on his back.

Of course, to call a journalist there.

So.

Damn, some ... Oh, also about the concert of Yana Zubkova.

Have you watched the concert of Yana Zubkova?

He had a concert and he is funny.

That's what surprised me.

Well, it made me a little more fun, to be honest.

He, first of all, posted it on his own channel.

And he got 600k views on his small channel.

But he got a lot of support on social media.

Yes, he got a lot of support.

He got a lot of good feedback on the concert.

He has some pretty bold jokes there.

That's why people liked it.

The reaction in the hall was wild, powerful.

That's good.

That's good.

But the review of Ilya Kemsev came out.

Speaker 2

So, it all fell into place.

Speaker 4

To be honest, it made me laugh so much.

The first few minutes are dedicated to the fact that Ilya didn't like the concert.

And I'm like, well, let's listen to what complaints.

And the first few minutes are dedicated to the fact that

People don't laugh like that.

And I, as a comedian, the first association, I thought, Ilya, if you have never laughed at a concert, it doesn't mean that such a reaction does not happen.

Just another joke is that not long before that I went to the EKB, and so it happened, but there

Well, I'm not saying it's always like that, but for me Decibel was also one of the loudest performances.

People laughed a lot, very loudly.

Of course, in post-production, they work separately with the laughter of the audience.

And I discussed with the comedians that there are comedians who don't like the laughter of the audience too loud, and there are comedians who like it and make it louder.

I was just sitting in my headphones listening to Jan's concert and there was a really loud laugh.

But I was at live concerts where people laughed a lot.

And I know that there are such halls.

And the sign of such a hall is that sometimes a person no longer laughs, but screams.

And in Yana's video, there are a couple of moments where the dude is literally some kind of man.

He just screams like this.

There is so much laughter that at some point he just screams.

And then I heard that such a laugh does not happen, it is you who are deceived, you were made to laugh like this, it's all because of this very bad.

And then, without any arguments, Ilya says that there are three jokes for the whole concert, and this is so absurd, he is so full of jokes that he says that there are three jokes.

The path of the samurai.

He is an artist, he sees it that way, so let it be like that.

He enlightens us.

Well, there are still some news about the West.

A week has passed, of course.

Yes, it was written there that the news was dry.

Well, the times are like that now, it's still summer.

The times are like that, it's good that the news is dry.

Yes.

Yes.

So.

I have another donation.

Come on.

Speaker 5

Vasily Kot, 200 rubles.

I saw David in acceleration, it was cool.

Thank you for the donation.

Speaker 4

Thank you very much, yes, the day really came out acceleration, I told a story there, received a lot of feedback on this story, yes, I read the comments, people seemed to like it, so I'm also satisfied, yes, look at the acceleration.

Speaker 2

Well, you have to take a look for sure.

Once such a story.

Speaker 4

Well, we have such a craft composition, that is, not mainstream, there is me, Tuyana Khorovets, Anton Bochenkov, Igor Torletsky, Zhenya Khodnikov.

It's like cherry beer, something like that.

Something like that.

So, what are your plans for the near future?

This show?

To do this show.

Speaker 2

I hope that it will find its form as soon as possible.

Cool, effective, useful for people.

And I hope to do another show of the same spirit, so to speak.

Knowledgeable, but helping a person to understand the world in which he lives.

That is, not just to learn, but to really touch.

In short, I want to activate people somehow.

That's it.

I try all sorts of creativity, everything that attracts me.

I have fun, as I said.

What, I've recovered in my master's degree, I've signed up to write a book.

Do you teach?

No, I don't teach, even with COVID.

Wow.

Yes.

A book too?

A book, yes, a book, a big challenge.

That's it, from my activities, that's it, plus... Do you have a deadline?

I have a deadline, yes, April 1st.

Horrible, horrible, horrible.

Well, I hope it will soon be completed, rather make a good book, an important one, I hope.

This is it, plus an educational project, I hope, from the second attempt to set it on fire, I hope it will work.

So we have a lot of plans.

And how often do you plan to do it?

Every week.

And the idea is that we are also doing a parallel Telegram channel, and there is also a week dedicated to this personality that we disassembled on YouTube, that is, we are still doing dope content for those who are interested in this device of extraordinaryness.

And people, as I understand it, will be considered from all industries.

Yes, yes.

Businessmen, actors, singers, sportsmen.

Now there is a game dev legend, then a writer and a comic.

Here are the first five releases.

Speaker 5

Can I ask another question then?

Yes, of course.

On which side will the personality unfold from all sides?

What influenced, family, context and everything else?

Speaker 2

Colleagues, creativity, health, all these things.

Listen, it depends on the personality, because somewhere something is more important, something needs to be refused, but there is an approximate structure.

We go from the context, because a grandiose person, as a rule, is built into the context of the era in which he lives, or rather, he transforms this context.

That is, it starts from there, the environment, the environment is small, the environment is wide, in which a person grows.

His becoming, what affects him, the moment of growth, the moment of coincidences, the moment of self-perception, that is, when a person left some diaries, memoirs, and we can directly understand how he perceived his activity, the environment.

Speaker 5

And you studied it all, it's amazing work.

Speaker 2

Listen, there is good content preparation, just the difficulty is that it is still difficult to put it in these podcasts in two hours and a lot remains anyway.

That's why the Telegram channel and so on.

And again, even like this, three or four people talking, it's impossible to figure it out.

you can completely try, in short, ignite this desire.

And I still hope that together with the audience we will already, as far as possible, find the truth.

Are you in the frame?

I'm in the frame, but not so much, I'm in the hood, mysterious, that's all.

Now you are not mysterious at all.

Speaker 5

Can I ask a question then?

Of course.

If you were the hero of this episode, what context would have influenced you the most?

Speaker 2

Me?

Wow.

Listen, I still realized that the context of media, these changes in the media picture from television to all this nonsense influenced me the most.

And I actually studied, that is, the Faculty of Philosophy, but I have a Department of Philosophy of the Language and Mass Communication, and in fact, how academically can the media

I mean, I had a great interest in it since I was a child, and it became my professional interest, it is the interest of my personal thoughts.

Therefore, I think that my most important context is probably the horizontalization of the media, so to speak.

So far, it doesn't seem so.

The most important context, of course, is the origin, the North Caucasus, but this is my inner context, I think, much more.

This is my character, my habits, my instincts, but not the format of what I do, at least at this stage.

Something like that.

So far, it seems so.

And you?

That's a great question, Alana.

I would like people to ask such questions, so answer now.

Speaker 5

Before I answer, I would like to share some stories.

Speaker 4

I will answer with a song.

Speaker 5

Well, not even a story, but rather my attitude to...

About your attitude to nationality.

I'm not subscribed to you on the website, but sometimes I read your posts.

You rarely post, but you have long posts.

I remember that you once wrote about nationality, national affiliation, and now I don't know how, but about two or three years ago there were a lot of

your involvement in this context.

And I read it all, maybe I heard it somewhere on podcasts, I don't remember exactly.

And I remember that at that time I was very angry about it, it sounds strange now, I'll try to explain.

And like 2-3 years ago I was more angry, I was like, what the hell, why, why all these nationalities?

Because my identity was not formed in this context.

But now, after a few years, I am rather jealous of how you formulated it, of how important it was to you, because just because of this anger, there was some kind of feeling of envy, which I could not identify at that time.

That's why this is the story.

This is why I asked, in general, yes, it was interesting to answer.

Speaker 2

I'll break in quickly.

I just don't remember what it's about, but I, how to say,

So to speak, national identification is a question of my personal life, and not public.

I am public for myself, no matter what it costs me in the future, but I decided not to position myself at the national level, I position myself at the regional level, that is, I position myself as a Caucasian.

But ethnicity is important, expensive, yes.

Speaker 5

I'm sorry, I interrupted.

Please finish your sentence.

Speaker 2

Well, yes, it's important, it's expensive, I'm interested in it, I'm worried.

But I decided that I will not move it, I will just move the friendship between all of us Indians of the North Caucasus.

Speaker 5

I remember what kind of posts it was.

I mean, I remember it, but I'm a little unsure about it.

It seems that some films about the Caucasus appeared in the editorial office.

Yes, yes, yes.

And yes, apparently at that moment you were a little burned out.

I understand you, because they broadcast it very one-sidedly.

And I read it, and on the one hand, it was close to me, on the other hand, I was like, why don't you spit it out?

Speaker 2

Well, you know, it was some kind of feeling, I told you, this anger was envy.

Because it's a fight of narratives.

A fight of narratives.

Yes, yes, yes.

Because we were imposed a narrative that we run with sticks, beat our women a little bit.

I thought it was very harmful to spread such information, to spread it like that.

There are problems, there are problems everywhere.

But the picture that they drew really outraged me at that moment.

Now it didn't upset me so much, because I already know the price of this.

But then it was like that, it seemed to me very important to react.

But this also did not concern the nationality, well, in the sense of nationality, it was about other regions in general.

But this is all a common home.

Speaker 5

Well, in general, yes, now I'm telling you, I'm more jealous of people, including you, who have some kind of idea, but you know, at the beginning you talked about the conditional share, that you respect such people who are supported, they have some kind of inner conviction, some kind of their own picture of the world.

Their own coordinate.

Yes, yes, yes, and I'm more jealous of such people now, because this is what I lack.

Speaker 2

There is, for example, Herman Sterling, who sometimes says absolutely outrageous things.

In short, there is something that I just

I'm not a fan, but I admire how much he has his own universe, in which there are answers to all questions.

And when I dive into this universe, of course, I'm surprised, but I'm interested in its authenticity.

Speaker 4

I remembered his answer to the question that his bread is expensive.

Or cheese, I don't remember.

He says, well, go on.

He says, well, it's expensive for you, go on.

I worked, I decided that this would be the price.

What market?

I don't focus on the market.

I want it to cost this much.

Speaker 2

Well, in short, such people are a rarity, in fact, because it is difficult to defend one's madness in our world, so to speak.

And when people succeed in this, well, it's hard not to tear their eyes off, in fact.

Although, again, at the maintenance level, I certainly do not agree.

But as a dude, he is top-notch, and what he gives out sometimes, damn, I admire it.

Speaker 4

I actually remembered the intersection with the fact that I had a similar approach in my last races.

I said that I had the same approach with Alana.

I had such an approach that I realized in some place that Miladze was singing about me, as if the boat in the ocean had lost its shore.

I'm a foreigner everywhere, I seem to be my own everywhere.

I told it through the prism that

I'm Georgian from Ossetia, and in Ossetia I'm Georgian, in Georgia I'm from Russia, in Russia I'm Caucasian.

So I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of my own everywhere, but everywhere you're also like, there you're Georgian, there you're from there, there you're from there.

And then I told one story there, in the subway, with this hidden racism that happened to me.

And I have a similar story with Alana, that because

I didn't look for it, but maybe you don't look for it, you just end up in this commune.

But because I didn't look for it, I also didn't feel any kind of belonging.

That is, I can say...

When I'm asked who I am by nationality, I say I'm half Georgian, half Ossetian.

And I like both Georgians and Ossetians, but I don't have anything that I can...

to call themselves 100% Ossetians or 100% Georgians, because I still have this in my head, well, this is a certain responsibility, it is necessary to correspond with some, I just know, I don't know how correct it is, but probably in the head of the people there is an image to which you must correspond, if you declare that you are

Speaker 2

Well, if you speculate directly on this topic, in short, if I identify myself through this, position myself through this, then you have to take responsibility.

Yes, yes.

When you don't do that, you don't have to.

For example, I don't do that.

Yes.

Although I believe that I don't have any special flaws in this.

That is, I know my language, I know all my fellow countrymen.

Those who speak with me in the same language are perceived as relatives by default.

I don't live in such a paradigm.

But as for the media, I chose to position myself differently.

Speaker 4

Thomas, hello from Yerevan.

I thank you for your inspiration and support since 2010.

Andranik is an African.

Speaker 2

I understand.

Speaker 4

Respect to him too, Andranik.

So, Alan, have you read everything?

No, I have a cat and a child now.

I'll put it aside now.

Speaker 5

Let's read the Donatix then.

Simulantka, 100 rubles.

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Thank you for the donation.

Speaker 4

Hello.

Thank you for the donation.

I remember this legendary beat.

It's hard to forget.

Legendary beat.

I have one more donation.

Thank you very much for the donation.

Ilya sent us a thousand rubles.

I put this donation on the screen and read it.

Once again, thank you very much, David and Alan, for the podcast, conversations and thoughts.

Question to Thomas.

What world do you see now and in which direction does it move you inside?

Speaker 2

What world do you see now and in which direction does it move you inside?

Oh, I see the world all the same ... damn, how to answer this?

Well, yes, it's like that.

I see the world confused, so to speak.

I see that the time we live in is confused.

Yes, I agree with you.

People have lost their orientation, people are out of sync.

We see that time is accelerating, processes are accelerating, neurons are even stronger, now they have poured into it.

The exchange of information becomes shorter and more ecliptic.

Because of this, we all simply live in some kind of growing schizophrenia.

And I asked myself a question.

Where is some kind of universal orientation?

Because I have personal orientations.

Spiritual, again, incidental, individual, some of my things.

That is, I don't feel very entangled, I just see what's going on around me.

And it seemed to me that when you can't see any direction ahead, try to reproduce from what worked before.

And this whole topic at the beginning, which I talked about in MediaNissance, is about this.

This is an archetype that worked in the past, it is not a panacea for today, but it contains a lot of what will help people now.

at least a little bit, at least in the media, because the media determines our thinking and consciousness and communication and so on.

Speaker 4

That's why I invite everyone to follow what we are doing there.

I subscribe so much to every word.

I look around, one by one, I see it all like this.

I don't know whether to build conspiracy theories around the fact that such a confusing system was invented on purpose, because it seems to me, in my head, that there was a system when the body gave the people information,

And the TV was controlled by certain groups of people.

Then there was competition in the form of the Internet.

And there was a slight delay, a slight delay.

When there was a lot of alternative information on the Internet, which often corresponded to the reality.

Not always, but often.

And then, when people realized that at such a pace we would lose the instrument of influence of the media.

Let's go to the Internet, try to compete.

It didn't work out.

And the working tool of the fight turned out to be that, let's just arrange, you know, when on the river, at the bottom of the Ilya River, you run, and the Ilya rises like this, and you can't see anything at all.

For me, the Internet space now is a river along which, I don't know, a bunch of buffaloes ran.

That is, you go to the Internet, and there is such a bag of fakes,

Trash.

True information, trash, jokes, it's just some kind of porridge in the comments already, that is, in the comments before there were such that, like, trash news comes out, but in the comments people are like, well, and trash, but in the comments already trash climbed, that is, you just

The bots write the news, the bots comment on the news, the bots argue with each other in these news.

You look at it all, you don't understand where the bots are, where the living people are.

You absolutely lose the picture of the world, you don't understand what society thinks.

Our cameraman wants a chip, he will move the camera now.

You just don't understand, that is, before you were like, in my opinion, this is a strange topic, you go into the comments, and most people are like, in my opinion, this is a strange topic.

I'm not alone, people think so too.

And now you won't find any confirmation anywhere.

According to all the questions, all the opinions in the same amount will be indicated.

That is, it's just a complete mess on the Internet, in the media, in all these resources.

It's not a compass anymore.

Speaker 2

He didn't send you anywhere.

Speaker 4

The lamb is breaking out.

What are you?

Do you want to eat fruit?

He eats fruit.

Speaker 2

Therefore, yes.

Well, we need to look for a way out.

Again, renaissance is actually metaphorical here, because it is not about the renaissance itself, although it contains a lot of what would be important today.

Because the central idea of ​​renaissance is a person as a measure of everything, a person as an author, a person as a source of truth, art as a source of truth.

And, of course, humanity is just not enough with the big letter C. And that's why I believe, in fact, that there is potential in this, and we'll try to dig it out, and then we'll see where the hard work will take us.

Speaker 4

Damn, cool.

Guys, please, don't let me sleep peacefully at night.

Subscribe, because I'll be so sad if no one passes and doesn't subscribe, and Thomas will be sitting and thinking,

And what is this podcast about?

It has some kind of conversion.

No, we had a nice chat, but it would be cool if you also subscribed to the channel.

Speaker 2

The code of grandeur will be released.

Guys, you don't share this code of grandeur, you will still subscribe to it.

Because I will do my best to make it so that it does not pass by and that it makes it stay and continue.

Because it's about people themselves.

It's a mirror, really.

That's what we do.

So don't subscribe at all.

But you have the opportunity to subscribe first.

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 2

But still, there is nowhere to go.

I hope that this show will do its job.

Speaker 4

And where to subscribe, asks Elena.

Now it is fixed in the chat, but we already have a podcast coming to an end.

Now, as soon as the podcast ends, I will edit it in the description.

There is a link, I will open it now.

We will read it now.

New YouTube channel of Thomas.

There is a double-point and a link to the channel.

Follow this link, subscribe.

And in a couple of days, I said in the next 7 days, but most likely in the next 5 days, because it comes out on weekdays.

Yes, so subscribe in the coming days, you will receive a notification, you will see.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and that's how we round things up, so if you didn't have time to donate, do it now.

Speaker 4

I have another one.

Go ahead.

Speaker 5

One second.

Johnny White, 300 rubles.

By the way, I missed why you started going out on Sunday after the holidays on Monday.

And so, irad tarajma, namaste to everyone, salaam alaikum and good night.

And good health, of course.

Thank you.

Speaker 4

Irad tarajma, yes.

It's Ossetians, go ahead.

I forgot that you lived in a student dorm.

Speaker 2

I didn't just live in a dormitory, I wrote scientific papers on the Ingush conflict.

Speaker 4

I'm in the material, believe me.

Wow.

So, the question was, why did we start coming on Sunday?

In fact, we are regularly asked this, but the answer is that we have it floating.

That is, we can go out on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

That is, as a rule, one of these three days we are guided by the fact that

so that it is convenient for us and the guest.

We choose the most convenient one from these three days and actually do it on this day.

We don't have a rule, we have such a floating one.

That is, most likely we will have three hyenas on Thursdays, and the podcast will be on Saturday-Sunday, Saturday-Sunday, sometimes on Friday.

Just stable.

The link is not working because the podcast is not over yet.

Now the podcast will end.

And check again, the link will work.

There are just a few people who have already written, 404.

Now everything will be.

Thomas, tell us about Almaty.

Thomas told at the beginning of the podcast.

Speaker 2

I told about stand-up, yes.

I can tell about the city.

Oh, tell, yes.

This is a magical city, damn it.

It is amazing.

First of all, you need to understand that it is very far from here, for example, I measured it directly on Google map, but from Moscow to Almaty, like from Moscow to Madrid, so that you understand what is nearby.

Yes, it takes 4.5 hours approximately.

The city, if I'm not mistaken, is three-quarters closed by mountains.

There are mountains right there, unlike, for example, the North Caucasus, where you still have to drive to the mountains.

As a rule, in Almaty, you can be right at the foot of the ice in half an hour.

And the wind is not very strong there either?

The wind is not very strong.

Cool architecture, so cozy Soviet, damn, you didn't live in this Soviet Union, but you somehow start to go crazy there, it was always warm.

Cool urbanistic divisions, that is, it is so ideally square, people are guided by the corners, everything is clear.

The city has a top and a bottom, this is the most amazing thing.

The top is considered closer to the mountains.

Further down.

And this is about 10 degrees, such a curve, and this is a capitalist curve, because the lower it is, the poorer it is, as a rule, the cheaper the housing, the worse the infrastructure, and the higher it is, the better it is, the more festive it is, and so on.

People look a little from above.

Yes, literally.

And the rich live up there.

And the trick is that in winter this difference becomes, you know, such a drinking one.

Because the city is flooded with coal, coal heating, and this gives a black smoke over the city.

And from above you can climb the mountains and see how simply the lower part of the city is in darkness.

If you even write like this on the Internet, Almaty smoke, you will be surprised how much black smoke is one of the worst airs in the world.

Especially in winter, because of this construction, there is nowhere to go.

In Bishkek, for example, there are about the same problems.

And that is, this physical curve, you know, because it is very harmful to breathe with it, and so on.

And from above, you are such a clean foothill air that they have there.

That's it.

It is a very young city, there are a lot of young people.

And how did it happen that the capital of Astana, and the whole movement is in Almaty?

Almaty was the capital until 1997.

Astana was originally a city.

How to say correctly, by the way, in Almaty or in Almaty?

There, to be honest, it is no longer clear, because I hear how the Kazakhs say both in Almaty and in Almaty, so I don't know how completely correctly I see that people say so.

And Astana is a little bit of an artificial city, so rendered.

You feel that this building got into Dubai purely from rendering.

Here is the same approximate effect.

Such a cold Dubai.

And the city, yes, it was strategically moved to this place, Almaty, right because of all the mountains and then the Tien Shan ridge, in short, and just mountain ranges, almost to India.

To Delhi, in my opinion, fly for two hours, if I'm not mistaken, to New Delhi from Almaty.

Wow, how close.

Yes, that is, everything.

And this is just such an achievement.

All this post-Soviet territory, such a bowl.

But this is a very fresh city, it is very pleasant to be there.

I think it's cool there, very creative people.

People go for everything.

You will always find like-minded people, mentors, viewers, audience.

Speaker 4

Do you know what amazes me?

Maybe this is my wrong perception through the institute, because I look at some infos, at someone else, at opinion leaders.

Kazakhs have a similar temperament with Caucasians.

They are hot-tempered people, often hot-tempered.

Their past traditions are not as old as they were 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago.

They have a very strict culture.

a lot of things were pretty strict.

Now there are people who

They strongly support it.

I'm trying to say it correctly, so that...

In short, there are people of old customs who, for the fact that we have a culture, traditions, all these things, conservative and so on.

At the same time, I also see that, for example, judging by the Insta and by the way girls swing there, for example,

For example, I've seen a lot of influencers who are swearing, and it was a bit weird for me, because I always thought...

It's hard for me to imagine that there will be an influencer girl in the Caucasus, who will record stories and will openly swear, like, I went to a cafe, there's some fucking shit here, and I went there, roughly speaking.

And I came across a few times like that.

And besides that, I see that there seems to be some kind of branch that is strongly swinging for the fact that, like, don't do your brains, that's how we like it, that's how we do it, we are a modern society.

Well, that is, you understand, this thing that we talked about a little earlier, where freedom is a little bit poured into some kind of perversion already.

But again, I spoke so carefully not to say something unnecessary, because I judge... How can I judge?

I've never been there.

I judge it only through a few pages on Instagram.

It's just that they're popular people, that's why I assumed that.

But there's some dissonance there.

I have a feeling that Kazakhstan is similar to the Caucasus, that there's...

There are traditions, culture, a little bit of conservatism, there is this man-woman, this is still there in the Caucasus.

That is, it has been discussed many times that at home in the Caucasus the wife may be more important, but when we go out into the world, the man, the wife, the man, all these things are there.

And there is also such a counter-argument.

Speaker 2

By the way, many Caucasians think that it is almost the same on a mental level, but it is not the same, you need to understand this.

The North Caucasus, of course, and the South Caucasus, in my opinion, are more conservative, but we are also talking about Almaty.

Almaty is a very progressive city in a good and bad sense.

What we see on social networks is not the whole of Almaty, but some more privileged part of it.

And they broadcast what they believe in today.

There are different forms of it.

And so, in itself, this people is very different in itself, because they are Asians, they are Turks, they are Russian-speaking.

At the same time, they are more westernized than Russia and earlier, in my opinion.

At the same time, they are Turks, Muslims and so on.

That is, there are a lot of such trends.

There are a lot of contrasts.

Yes, there are a lot of contrasts.

And at the same time, they have their own positioning.

That is, the Kazakhs know what the Kazakhs mean.

I see it and I see them.

how their culture sparkles now, how they reactualize their culture in music, in clothes, in visual arts, in the videos that we see.

And for me personally, at the beginning, when I was just thinking whether to move there or not, it was also a factor.

I saw that they are kind of at the dawn now.

And I really wanted to catch this, because it is possible that this will happen in the Caucasus, when we start rethinking our culture beautifully.

And I was lucky to touch on this, including with people who made a great contribution to this.

It is interesting to watch them.

In fact, the people themselves are, as it seems to me, quite progressive.

That is, we see, for example, in analogy with other post-Soviet spaces, there, most likely, the most successful, the most active, everyone is picked up by all sorts of innovations emerging there.

Social media, now with neurons.

I already know a lot of guys who are directly at my office, we are engaged in neurons.

That is, they are on the edge of it all.

Cool.

It is certainly interesting there, informative.

Therefore, I advise everyone, if there is an opportunity, to touch, to learn certain things.

I am glad that my life has come together like this.

And the city is amazing.

Speaker 4

Andranik A translated 1000 rubles, the message is respect.

Thank you very much, mutual respect is directed.

Thank you very much for the donation.

What, Alan, do you still have it?

No, I have everything.

Speaker 5

It seems that there is nothing.

What?

Speaker 4

It seems that there is nothing.

Speaker 5

Well, I read it.

Oh, okay.

Yes, there was another question at the very beginning in the comments, I then tried to find this post, they wrote that thanks to Thomas for the post with books, but I didn't find it.

And I once had a post on Instagram.

And plus to this thank you, there was a question about what you read last.

Can you recommend something?

I liked the question, I decided to read it.

Speaker 2

I'll open my BookMate now.

I read only through BookMate.

Do you read electronic books?

Yes, I learned to read books physically quite a long time ago, 7-8 years ago.

Speaker 5

I recently tried to read an electronic book, I read it for a week, although there were 300 pages and I had time, I could read anything.

But I realized that I was procrastinating and I couldn't read electronic books at all.

Speaker 2

I recommend Bookmate, it's a free ad for Yandex.

We bought this service, it's been around for a long time, I really love it.

Well, the last thing I've read, I just can't find anything here.

This is about Tolstoy, analysis of his work.

In short, I love this genre of comparison of the life and creative path of some author.

I read about Pushkin, who wrote Berdyaev.

Now about Tolstoy, before that about Limonov.

This French author, she is, of course, in French,

It's a bit vulgar, but interesting.

Did you work in parallel?

No, I really just love it.

Speaker 4

Now I'm reading... To find out the code of grandeur of these writers?

Speaker 2

Well, I'm reading about Mayakovsky now.

This may be the fourth book I'm reading about Mayakovsky.

One of the most interesting that I wrote about him.

His surname is Polonskaya.

This is the last time I saw him alive.

He shot himself there.

Almost with her, in short, his last passion.

Memoirs are also very interesting to me.

And now I am reading from Dmitry Bykov, a modern agent.

Vladimir Mayakovsky's The Thirteenth Apostle is very interesting.

The brilliant author is very interesting to read, how he again describes how all these personal perturbations reflected in his work.

That's what I'm reading now, mainly.

Well, a little bit of some kind of philosophy.

Speaker 4

Solid.

Speaker 2

I don't know, it's almost like billetristika.

Speaker 4

Two more questions from the chat.

Come on, three, okay.

I'll ask the mainstream ones too and we'll round up.

The first one.

Where are the stories for the night?

Speaker 2

I'm waiting for it myself.

I hope that we will see them all again soon.

I think that the project should always come out.

David, our fireplace went out.

Speaker 5

Yes, I saw it.

Speaker 2

Yes, the fireplace went out.

So I hope that everything will be renewed soon.

Super.

Speaker 4

How many hours do you allow yourself to sleep at night?

Speaker 2

Yes, I allow myself to sleep as much as possible.

Speaker 4

It turns out to be more than 6 hours of sleep.

Speaker 2

Yes, almost always.

I try.

It's very interesting to be here in my sleep, to be honest.

I don't want to offend myself.

If I have a chance to sleep, I will sleep well.

Speaker 4

It's important, it's respect.

Of course, it's the basis.

What is Thomas's height?

Speaker 2

About... 1.3 meters.

1.3 meters in a difficult state.

Speaker 4

So that you understand, you are watching now, Thomas' legs are ending right here, behind me.

My legs are long, so it's okay.

Okay, let me finally ask you to subscribe.

You are now online, in the chat you have a fixed link.

If you are watching in the recording, in the description there is a link to the new YouTube channel of Thomas Postigay, on which there will be a new show code of grandiosity.

There is also a link to the community of Thomas VK, if your YouTube is lagging.

Everything will be duplicated.

Yes, I understand that everything will be duplicated.

Speaker 2

Well, I hope it will be put out everywhere, if possible.

Speaker 4

Yes.

And Thomas's Telegram is also in the description.

Subscribe, don't miss it.

It was the podcast Authority of Thoughts.

Thank you, Thomas.

As always, it was nice to chat with you.

I hope the next one will be not in one and a half, maybe a little less.

As soon as possible.

Until the next visit.

Yes, it's always nice to chat.

This was the podcast Authority of Thought.

Thank you for watching.

Like, subscribe, spread.

Speaker 6

Bye everyone.

Bye.