Удар США по Ирану. К чему приведёт война на Ближнем Востоке?Ситуация на Сумском направлении: Левиев*

Irina Boblain, Vadim Rominsky, Ruslan Leviyev, journalist-investigator, founder of the Conflict Intelligence Team.

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Ruslan, we understand that you mostly follow the war that is now continuing on the territory of Ukraine, but of course we cannot help but ask about the blow that the United States made on Iran.

What do you pay attention to?

What are the bombers that were used?

What about the bombs themselves?

As I understand it, they were used for combat purposes for the first time.

Yes, these are strategic B-2 bombers.

They flew out of the central part of the United States, the state of Missouri, the Whiteman airbase, and flew there.

They say that the flight lasted 37 hours in total.

There were a lot of refueling.

They flew to Iran, where they dropped the GBU-57 airbombs.

They say that there were 6 or 7 bombers.

And they dropped 14 of these air bombs.

And according to the air bombs, they say that, well, I read this, I didn't understand it in detail, but they say that these bombs were specifically designed for this particular case, when you need to break through large rock and rock forests and destroy an object that is deep underground.

And the most important nuclear objects are underground.

The same object of Ford is about 90 meters deep.

And this is a concrete bomb with a weight of about 14 tons, and it can penetrate up to 60 meters of soil and explode inside.

But since the object was at a depth of 90 meters, that is, it needs to extend the reserve by another 30 meters,

Apparently, that's why they dropped one bomb after another.

So that the first bomb would make a hole, the second one would make another one, and so on, until the object was destroyed.

They say that these bombs were used for the first time.

And about a month and a half, two months ago, there was an article in one of the Western newspapers where they wrote that right now America is increasing production of this particular model of air bombs.

That is, earlier they produced about two pieces a month.

Now they are greatly accelerating production and will produce five, six, maybe even nine pieces a month, so that there is such a certain supply.

According to the consequences, so far...

It's unclear whether the object was destroyed or not.

And most likely, we, as foreign researchers, will hardly be able to understand with a lot of confidence how serious the damage is.

Because the object is still underground.

And what we get is only satellite images from space.

Even if you look at them in high quality, it's the same.

What do we see on them?

We see just traces of hits on them.

That is, such small recesses in the mountain range itself.

But you won't understand on them.

Did they get the object?

Did they not get the object?

Apparently, they hit it, yes, that is, at the place where it is located.

But whether it is destroyed or not, there is, in theory, one option of how to try to explore it, is to wait for some kind of radio-location satellite pictures.

These are not the same ones, which are like photos, these are special photos of false lights, which are made by special radio-location satellites.

which can be used to estimate how much the rock has sunk, that is, how the landscape of this particular mountain has changed, and compare it with the previous picture before the impact.

Then, in theory, researchers like us and others will be able to estimate more accurately how much damage is caused to this very object.

But I saw a comment by the general director of the BGT, who said that apparently the object was hit by Ford, but it is almost impossible to assess the scale of its damage with more confidence now.

What Trump says is that the object is definitely destroyed, this is the end, there is no more Ford.

Most likely, these are more emotional statements.

I understand that they may have their own sources, their own intelligence, some spies who can report about Boucherbe in an operative mode, but most likely it was an emotional statement.

Because I also saw, for example, information from the Maxar company, which is engaged in satellite reconnaissance, and they said that in two days before these strikes, respectively, in the area of the Fordov plant, they saw a number of trucks and transport that clearly took something out of there.

That is, it is also unclear.

Yes, at this point it is also unknown.

It may be that some part of the object was taken out and could be organized in another place.

There are a lot of questions that still need to be answered.

You know, all this reminds me of the typical behavior of such politicians.

I remember the case that I like to bring up in quotes on such topics, the case of France.

When there was a terrorist attack in Bataclan, ISIS, where many people died, it was necessary to somehow avenge ISIS for this.

And the French generals hit the table, said to their scouts, give us an urgent goal, where will you throw us an air bomb, to make an act of revenge.

They were given coordinates of a kind of training camp, the French forces flew there, dropped an air bomb, destroyed everything.

When they began to check it, it turned out that it was some kind of godforsaken, forgotten barn, where there was no one, there was nothing, an absolute empty facility, well, there was zero damage to the ISIS, but in the news it was allowed to present it as such news, such as an act of revenge has been carried out.

And we avenged for such a terrible terrorist attack.

This reminds me a little bit of what Trump is doing now.

It's very similar to what Trump is doing now.

We act with force.

We understand only the language of force.

There are no interesting strategic steps.

No.

If someone does not obey, we drop an air bomb and, in principle, everything will be solved.

Russia warned the United States before striking their bases.

This practice also exists.

That is, we must answer, but we will tell you that we will strike there so that you can take out the contingent.

Yes, we will destroy the base, but there will be no serious human casualties, and the escalation will not go further.

Here, again, the question of diplomacy is difficult to guess, but to explain everything, you need to ask the question of political scientists, how to relate to this.

It is clear that Iran was obviously waiting for these strikes.

He clearly, with great confidence, assumed that such strikes could take place.

And we know that last year the Russian military went to Iran, which deals with the topic of air defense, missile troops and so on.

As we believe, they went to consult Iran on the issue of possible air attacks of Israel and America.

But, as you can see, it did not help much.

All the blows were carried out anyway, and the damage was for a significant reason.

Ruslan, I just wanted to say that we will discuss the political side with Sasha Filipenko today, and I wanted to ask a little emotionally, because you are still in the United States of America, and the statements that sound from the Iranian side that every American has a legal goal now, how do they generally perceive it?

I don't see any discussion or excitement about it yet.

Even in the press, I haven't noticed it yet.

As if it was unnoticed.

Probably because such statements are quite routine, let's say.

In my opinion, America as a whole is used to the fact that in the Middle East they constantly wish her death.

They say that we will kill everyone, punish and so on.

As far as I can see,

Everything that happens in America in terms of news discussion is news about clashes with the immigration police, protests, actions against Trump.

So there is no horror that the United States was directly involved in the war in the Middle East?

No.

— I haven't seen anything like that, and I haven't seen any incitement yet, like, look, our powerful strategic bombers flew into such an important object and destroyed it right away.

I haven't seen anything like that either.

Maybe it's just because it was the weekend, maybe now in the morning we'll go to Sanya, maybe we'll see something.

So far, there hasn't been anything.

Is there an assumption, again, what forces Iran has left in order to now, perhaps, give some kind of answer?

I read the BBC analyst, who is also discussing what kind of answer it can be.

Iran can be silent, or now hide and strike later.

or try now to dock the bases of the United States in the Middle East, for example, in Iraq or Syria.

And here he answers that Tehran has still saved about half of its stock from 3,000 missiles of different distances.

Do you have any kind of assessment, understanding of how close this figure to 1,500 is to the truth?

And I will also add,

In addition to these 1,500, there was information yesterday that, accordingly, they are going to Russia and discuss how to get some kind of help from Russia.

And can they get some kind of help from Russia with the same PVO or something?

Well, the head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry has already arrived in Moscow.

There were photos of him in Moscow.

And Zakharova also confirmed that he is in Moscow, yes.

That is, some consultations are probably going on about this now.

But as for the rest of the rocket supplies, to be honest, no, we don't have any of our own today.

Because we are a very small team, we are now very immersed in the topic of the war between Russia and Ukraine.

Therefore, as a rule, I say to such questions that we don't usually deal with this topic, I don't comment on it.

Can Russia help Iran in the military?

Will it help them when they have all the fronts?

It's been a long time since there's been a talk about Iran asking for Su-35S fighters, which seems to have been a deal, but it seems like Russia hasn't put them in Iran yet.

These fighters are very necessary for the conquest of air sovereignty, that is, they kind of shoot down air targets.

They can shoot down rockets, of course, not all, but some rockets can shoot down.

They can shoot down drones, other planes, and that's some kind of...

The level of assistance in this would be if these fighters were deployed to Iran.

But for now, for some reason, no, they are not deployed.

In theory, maybe they could also put some S-400 complex.

Although, on the one hand, it is dubious, because Russia now needs all the PVO complexes very much.

in view of the ongoing war.

But on the other hand, we saw that in the previous two and a half years of the full-scale war, we saw Russia calmly sending other equipment to other regions of the world, to the African continent, to Syria, and so on.

So, apparently, even in the absence of some equipment, sometimes, for the sake of some political tasks, Russia is ready to allocate a certain part of the equipment to its partners.

But so far, it seems that Iran has not allocated it in addition.

But we didn't see any success in the work of the Russian Air Force, which was deployed to Iran.

Or we just didn't hear about it?

No, we didn't see it.

We saw, on the contrary, the strikes of the Israeli forces on the Amtur complex, which were noticed in Iran, and they were destroyed there.

In principle, most of the air force, or in general, it was unable to be liquidated and put into service.

That's why we saw how Israeli drones safely flew in the airspace of Iran.

Good.

If we move on to the war that is much closer to us and that you closely monitor in the Conflict Intentions Team.

Ruslan, what is happening in the Sumy direction when we hear that Vladimir Putin is declaring on the Economic Forum that the Sumy will soon be under Russian occupation?

Well, he allows it.

There, according to the latest statements of both sides, the Russian and Ukrainian, apparently, there was some kind of stabilization of the front line.

Moreover, there were counterattacks of the Ukrainian forces.

And I will show it on the map.

They say that they were able to repel the village of Andreevka.

which has not been captured by the Russian forces for a long time.

There is a small video confirmation from this village, where we see battles there, and at least you can agree that at least the southern part of the village has returned under the control of the Ukrainian forces.

This is really so.

But the Russian forces continue to attack Ukrainian positions and are trying to reach the level of the villages of Khotyn, Pisarevka, that is, approximately the northern part of the large forest massif, which passes approximately in this way.

Immediately after the forest massif, a little to the south, the first outskirts of the city of Summa begin.

We believe that most likely the Russian troops will go to the border of this forest massif, that is, to its northern part, and there will be no attacks on the regional center, on the city of Summa.

For the same reason, I explained why drones that fly at 50 km do not give any great advantage.

Now it is very popular to remember that Russia is testing and using drones that fly at 50 km.

Therefore, they can control logistics at such a distance.

This is not so.

The more distance you take from the front line, the more force you need.

Accordingly, in order to cut the logistics of the enemy at a distance of 50 km from the front line, you need a lot more drones than in 10 km from the front line.

The same goes for land operations.

If you want to wedge into the territory of the enemy for 10 km, you need only forces.

Now there are only forces.

I see that there are forces to create a line of the occupied part,

It's about 10 kilometers deep, as it was in the Kharkov region, where Volchansk is.

And to create a strip and enter the Sumy region for 50, even 30 kilometers, where the city of Sumy is located, you need completely different forces, which I do not see where you can take the Russian army.

Therefore, I do not expect that the Russian army will go so far and reach the city of Sumy.

The Serbian head of the Armed Forces, giving a press conference the other day, said that the Ukrainian military continues to hold part of the territory in the Kursk region.

How much does this make sense from a military point of view?

Again, we can talk about politics separately and in a different way.

But do the forces of the Armed Forces really remain there?

Well, there are more questions about the military strategy.

We say that these are the loopholes that the Ukrainian military command is facing again and again and again.

We believe that when you have a shortage of equipment, ammunition and especially people, you need to try to shorten the front line, not stretch it.

Because in the end, we see that the tactic of using it as a political scourge does not work.

That is, the fact that there was a Kursk plaza, no one took it into account in any way.

It did not allow to influence Russia.

And the tactic of exterminating the Russian army also does not work.

Because we see the estimates of the researchers, the open data, they show that in the Kursk and the Somsk directions, all this time, the existence of these plazas, Ukraine loses more equipment than Russia.

Therefore, only Ukraine is at risk.

And in the end,

Instead of removing some of their units from the Kursk region, from the Tetkino region, where the Ukrainian army continues to attack Russian positions, and now they are heading, for example, to the Toretsk direction or to the Pokrovsk direction, where the situation is dangerous, or to the south of the Donetsk region, where the Komar sent.

Instead, they go to the Kursk region again for some reason, it is not clear why.

To just show that we are in the Kursk region?

which makes it unclear.

But in the end, you can't conquer any territory in the Kursk region and at the same time lose your position on another front line.

Therefore, in our opinion, according to many Ukrainian military, as I see it, this is a mistake of the Ukrainian military command to stretch its front line in this way.

What do you have to do then?

First, prepare some defensive positions, and then, moving on to them, with more preparation, meet the opponent?

First of all, I would say that it is necessary to leave the Belgorod region, the area of Demidovka and Popovka, where they attacked from the Kursk region.

A long time ago it was necessary to leave.

Last year we said that it was impossible to hold on.

And you will use all your strength.

and send it to the most critical areas of the front line, where there is a dangerous situation for the Ukrainian forces.

Here, for example, you can go back to the question of the Utrecht direction, which I just told you about, and look at it on the map.

Here, right now, there is a very dangerous situation.

Why?

Because we see the main reference point, the Kleban-Byk reservoir.

And we see that the Russian forces are now approaching it from the western side.

They are attacking the villages of Yeblonovka and Aleksandra Kalinova.

And both villages are already on the front line, there are hostilities going on in these villages.

That is, in the coming days, these villages will be captured.

And then it will be a super dangerous situation for the Ukrainian forces, because this part, which is south of the reservoir, it seems to be in such an almost complete encirclement.

And most likely, I can say this in advance, that most likely Syrsky, Umerov, I have this feeling, will again set the task that we stand until the end, while all the forces are there, we do not leave there.

And this will lead to additional losses of forces.

In any case, at some point from this territory they will leave.

But they will leave with more losses.

And what will this lead to?

Because when this part of the territory will be captured by the Russian army, the southern water reserve, this one,

And the Ukrainian forces will retreat behind the water reservoir here.

They will retreat with more exhausted, more exhausted, with less strength and resources.

And then they will have less opportunity to hold on to these new positions here.

And that's why they will have to go even further, to Konstantinovka and so on.

Therefore, in our opinion, this is an incorrect tactic and we should not go to the emotional part of society, which writes in the comments on Facebook that this is betrayal, this is defeat, if we leave the red village there, we need to stand to the end, we are only in trouble, only forward, we should not go to them.

We need to understand the military strategy and understand that in some positions it is better to retreat first, and then retreat with more force.

And it is better to hold on to other positions.

This is the tactic we think we need to stick to.

How does Ukraine build defensive borders in general?

There was, as I understand it, there was also criticism towards the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine after the situation in the Kharkov region.

Have these mistakes been taken into account now?

It's a very different situation on different parts of the front.

Now, for example, a lot of people are discussing the Samuelsk region, discussing the images that appeared there, where there are a bunch of collapsed concrete pyramids, which are usually used for construction of all kinds of lines of defense.

Dragon teeth, right?

Yes, dragon teeth, those things, yes.

In the Ukrainian version, there were Ukrainian concrete pyramids.

Apparently, they were bought and brought there when there was no attack on the Sumy region, when there was still a Russian plaza.

And, accordingly, the front line was far away, which means that the military-civilian administration was responsible for such reinforcements and defense lines at that time.

That is, there is a division in Ukraine.

What is close to the front line,

This protection is built by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.

The fact that it is far from the front line, but it also needs to be built, this is done by the local military-civilian administration.

That is, different structures.

And so the military-civilian administration of the Sumy region brought concrete pyramids there, did not build anything and dumped them in a pile.

On the one hand, it seems that this is bad, for this it is necessary to sue, arrest, imprison, and so on.

They shouldn't have bought concrete pyramids.

On the other hand, these concrete pyramids would probably not help much now.

Because, as we can see, armored vehicles are practically not used in the Sumy region.

There are infantry attacks going on there.

Soldiers will not just bypass these concrete pyramids.

Why do they need concrete pyramids?

And again, if you look at other parts of the front, somewhere, for example, in the Kharkiv region,

There is a lot of discussion about the fact that there are some reinforcements, but they do not correspond to the current reality of the war.

That in today's times, just to dig such a passage in the ground to some depth is no longer enough.

And no one will do it in today's times, that is, they will not sit in it.

Because drones fly, and the trenches are destroyed.

Dozens of drones are shot, and you can't hide in these trenches.

Especially when these trenches are somewhere in an open field, and not in the field of landing.

Therefore, in modern conditions, all these fortifications need to be built again and differently.

Build them not in an open space, not in the field.

In the forest.

And it is necessary to open it with a net or some other coverings.

To protect themselves as much as possible from drones.

Therefore, it turns out such an unpleasant situation.

That there are many fortifications that were built in 1924-1923.

And now they are absolutely useless.

And no one sits in them.

Because they become dangerous for the current war.

Therefore, somewhere now they are building normal fortifications.

With nets, with coverings.

Very differently.

Depending on the specific section of the front.

What other areas of the front do you follow in the Kupin direction?

In the Kupinsk direction, in the Kharkov region, while the situation is a little unclear, there is a feeling that a lot of statements have gone to the credit, what is called by the Russian forces.

In particular, we know that Kondrashovka and the village were captured, and now the front line passes in this direction, but on the contrary, Russia also stated that they captured the village of Ratskovka and the village of Moskovka, which here is designated as peaceful.

This is already the outskirts of Kupinsk.

And at the same time, there were no photos or video reflections on Roltskovka and Moskovka.

Therefore, even Z-bloggers, such as Kirill Fedorov, doubt these statements and believe that most likely this is a loan statement.

This is probably due to the fact that it was necessary to somehow win, to show that they have already approached Kupinskoye, which is the main target in this direction, and that attacks on the city itself will begin soon.

Although this is not the case yet.

And also in other directions.

It is worth noting the south of the Donetsk region.

Here, the Russian troops continue their main goal of reaching the administrative border of the Donetsk region.

During these weekends, they captured several villages.

In particular, they captured the village of Perebudov and Zaporizhzhia.

Zaporizhzhia is a village, not a region.

which is located not far from the border.

And here the front line passes, in our opinion, a little differently than it is drawn here.

I'll show you.

It goes about this way.

This is all captured by the Russian troops.

That is, in principle, to the border with the Dnepropetrovsk region, the Russian troops are quite close.

So far, there are no full-scale battles in the neighboring region.

They are still trying to capture the Donetsk region, the Russian troops.

These are the main areas of the front line.

Will we have time to talk about tanks?

Yes, this is a big piece of information that CIT has released.

To be honest, during these years, when we are closely monitoring, it seemed that tanks do not play a leading role in this war.

What are the main conclusions from this study that you conducted?

First of all, when the question arises, for example, how much more time will Russia be able to continue to wage war when it does, how much more time will Russia need after the freeze of war to restore its forces, to prepare for a possible war with NATO members, most often the number of tank production decreases.

Russia has so many tanks now, and it produces so many.

So it needs so much time.

When will the supply run out in the current war?

And when will Russia restore its capabilities?

And will there be an opportunity to fight Finland, for example?

We have been dealing with this topic for several months.

We studied a lot of sources, compared.

We came to the conclusion that now Russia is able to produce exactly new tanks from scratch.

Approximately 250-300 pieces a year.

This is not enough.

In the previous years, in this war, Russia lost 1,000-1,500 tanks.

It turns out that Russia now produces five times less than it spends per year.

But before, why could Russia afford to fight like this?

Because there were gigantic Soviet reserves, several thousand tanks.

These reserves are now coming to an end.

And then only new tanks will remain, for the most part.

And it seems that Russia has nothing more to fight for.

But it's not quite so.

We see that the Russian command also understood this perspective, and the tactics a few months ago have changed.

That is, we saw that they began to save on armored vehicles, they began to use them much less.

Why did I tell you about the Russian region, about concrete pyramids, that they would be useless?

Because the infantry on the attack, the assault infantry, if you have an authoritarian state where all the independent media are suppressed, all the dissidents are suppressed, you can afford yourself a higher level of human losses in exchange for supporting the current war.

If you don't have the right equipment, then you will lose more people.

And the losses, most likely, in the media zone, in the BBC, will continue to grow, will grow even more.

Because the pace will not last.

Due to the fact that more people have lost.

The tactics have changed in this way.

That is, people have been transferred to light armored vehicles, non-armored vehicles, motorcycles, civilian cars.

And that's how they lead the war.

And in such a state, you can continue the war for quite a long time.

Moreover, so far, the number of people at war is not falling.

That is, 30,000 people a month, Russia is steadily gaining.

This is enough for such a pace of war as it is now.

These are our main conclusions about tanks.

Do you need such a number of tanks now?

If there was an opportunity to continue to spend 1,000-1,500 tanks per year on the war, then, of course, Russia would want to do it.

And Ukraine would also want to do it.

That is, there is such a stereotype that tanks shoot like a kind of weapon.

It seems that all the attention should be on drones.

This is a slightly distorted public opinion under the influence of all these publications, especially because the homeless are almost all with video cameras, so they present a lot of such colorful shots.

And, of course, there is an element of cherry-picking when only the most colorful, the most successful attacks of the homeless are published, everything else is not published.

That's why there is such a distorted public opinion that tanks are absolutely outdated and can never be produced again, new ones are not developed, no one needs them, and artillery seems not to be needed.

Now we can replace everything with drones, and we can conduct the war only with drones.

This is not true.

In fact, tanks are still needed, still used, especially if, for example, you want to destroy fortifications and fortifications where the enemy soldiers are sitting.

In order to destroy them, you will need a lot of forces, a lot of drones.

And if you shoot a tank with your shells, you will need much less shots and hits on the blindage, for example, in order to destroy it.

And the infantry that will move on the ground, the assault infantry, will be much easier.

if it has a tank behind it, which covers it, which shoots for landing and allows it to advance.

Therefore, tanks are still needed, still used.

It's just that they have a deficit, so they kind of went a little off the top.

This is true, yes.

But they are still needed, and they need to be developed in all countries of the world and create new ones too.

Can Russia increase their production?

Are there such opportunities and power?

So far, according to what we see now, the current pace is about 300 tanks per year made from scratch.

This is approximately plus or minus peak capabilities.

There is also a question of old T-72 tanks, very old T-72A modifications.

Russia still has many thousands of them.

There are some Russian factories that take old T-72 tanks from the reserves and restore them and send them to the front line.

If these powers are released, they are not spent on the old T-72, then the production of new tanks will probably increase to about 400 a year.

To increase the production of tanks, you need to build new factories, new conveyor lines, and this requires additional tanks and personnel, respectively.

With this, as far as you understand, there are problems, because the tanks, as a rule, are foreign, and it is necessary to have such specialists.

It is not possible to grow it so quickly.

That is, so far, most likely, the pace is plus or minus peak.

Ruslan, I want to ask you about the strike carried out by the Russian Armed Forces on the training camp or training ground of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

This information is confirmed by both sides, but the data on the dead is different.

In Kiev, it is reported that three people were killed, but some Russian Z-bloggers write that as a result of that blow, ballistic missiles killed up to 75 people.

But this is the assessment of Z-bloggers.

We, of course, can't check it separately.

There is a video of the strike itself.

It happened near the village of Davydov Brod, this is the Kherson region.

Now I'll move the map a little bit to make it clearer.

Davydov Brod, the village is about here.

Here it is.

That is, there are about 50 kilometers to the front line.

In 50 kilometers from the front line there was a training camp in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where a cassette ammunition was fired.

That is, in the video we see the use of not ballistic missiles, but a cassette ammunition.

And it was shot from a high altitude by a Russian reconnaissance drone.

Therefore, it is impossible to figure out how many people were injured.

Because everything was shot from a high altitude and the quality of the video is so-so.

Therefore, it remains only to rely on the development of both sides.

And it is obvious that at least three people died.

75 is obviously such a priority estimate, as we always hear from the Russian side.

Probably, it is closer to the Ukrainian one.

Three people died and it is known that there are still 14 wounded.

And why did it happen?

It's clear, it's just that they understood where the enemy forces were, the Russian military, and they struck there.

This, again, may be some kind of oversight by the commanders of the Armed Forces of Ukraine themselves, because, again, there were situations before that, when a shell flew there right on the square during the construction.

Yes, actually, why Mikhail Tropat, the general, left the position of commander of the land forces?

Exactly because the previous strike was also the same on the training ground, where Ukrainian soldiers died.

Therefore, he left this position of commander of the land forces.

Why does this happen?

In my opinion, the main reason is the deficit of air defense of Ukraine.

That is, when your enemy drone flies quietly in 50 kilometers from the front line,

This is very bad.

This should not happen.

I understand that 10-15 kilometers from the front line flew to you in the rear, but 50 kilometers is a lot.

Naturally, when we talk about 50 kilometers from the front line, most, even the military, will think that this distance is probably safe.

Therefore, it is probably safe, you can have polygons at such a distance from the front line, conduct some exercises, construction.

Apparently, this was the logic of the local commanders.

They thought that 50 kilometers, well, nothing will happen.

Who will find you there in 50 kilometers?

It turned out that Russian drones are flying for the first time in such a space.

Therefore, there was also an element of negligence on the part of the Ukrainian command.

It is necessary to understand that now the distance of 50 kilometers is also definitely not safe.

There is no need to use any buildings or polygons in such a space.

We also regularly hear about the suffering of civilians, and not only in Ukraine, when Russian missiles fly in and hit civilian houses, civilians, when literally multi-storey buildings are just lined up with entrances, we observe all this.

News regularly comes in, including yesterday, that a drone hit a civilian car, well, if we talk about yesterday, in the Belgorod region.

But there was not even a civilian car, not a civilian car, but a ambulance carriage, and the wound was treated by a doctor, a nurse.

And her driver.

Why are there such blows?

It would seem that the ambulance is there, the doctors are there.

And yet, again, in the Armed Forces, someone makes a decision that it is necessary to beat on this object?

This happens from both sides.

From the Russian side, we see it a little more often.

Moreover, there is such a Telegram channel, which is called Mariupol and Karapat, where they are not shy at all.

They show that we are beating the civilians, we are beating the rescuers.

Because we believe that all those who are in Kherson are enemies, enemies.

Even if they are civilians, even if they are doctors.

This happens there constantly.

From the Ukrainian side, this also happens sometimes.

In my opinion, the main reason is not that someone makes such an order.

Probably, the main reason is psychology and emotions.

That is, we see that we, on the example of America, see that sometimes even presidents are guided by emotions more than by some kind of cold calculation, some kind of strategy or assessment of all risks.

And what to say about ordinary soldiers, who watch us in the same way, as we do, on social networks, receive videos about some non-judicial executions of soldiers, about strikes on peaceful cities of Ukraine, about how the same entrances are made, about which you have just mentioned, in the same Kiev, where more than 20 people die at a time.

And they have emotions in their heads, especially when you yourself are on the front line, in difficult conditions, when your servicemen are dying near you, they are torn into pieces.

In such conditions, your moral rating falls.

And you are sometimes ready to go for such, including criminal acts.

Maybe for this reason.

Maybe for the reason of some other problems.

There may be different reasons.

But such cases occur on both sides of the front line.

Alas, we have not met for all these three years so that any country, be it Russian, be it Ukrainian, specifically on such a topic, strikes on civilians, on rescue vehicles, so that someone would punish their own for this.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for your patience and for such a detailed story.

Thank you and see you next Monday.